johndglynn Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Your right Sheriff, but I think this was not called for at all or is it just me?. All that time and money spent finding Black Beauty and then cutting corners on parts is false economy mate, think that is the point Jon is trying to make. Had it gone to a specialist, they would have fitted genuine, there would likely have been no probs and it probably would have been a little less hassle - that is worth saying. You use a specialist for servicing don't you? Seem to remember you recommending someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP72 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Hang on a minute .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SEE YA Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) All that time and money spent finding Black Beauty and then cutting corners on parts is false economy mate, think that is the point Jon is trying to make. Had it gone to a specialist, they would have fitted genuine, there would likely have been no probs and it probably would have been a little less hassle - that is worth saying. You use a specialist for servicing don't you? Seem to remember you recommending someone. It was not a case of cutting corners money wise, Yes I use a Porsche specialist for the service work and other bits. The pipe in question had been on the car since Nov only.If a garage had fitted a pipe, then the fitting breaks off it does not matter if I did it or them the pipe still breaks. It's just another chapter in Porsche ownership. the high's and low's like in life, it could have been a lot worse. Edited May 29, 2009 by SEE YA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I know you have been dying to use that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 It was not a case of cutting corners money wise Why buy there then and not from a supplier of genuine parts? They had already sold you one duff line, right? A genuine part probably wouldn't have broken. I agree that I fail to see the logic of putting all that time and energy into finding "the right car" and then not putting the right bits on, especially when you can fit one genuine Porsche line and probably never change it again in the life of the car. I'm not saying it's my business what you put on your car, or even that I care all that much. I'm saying I don't see the logic, that is all. I read JBL's post along the same lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP72 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I know you have been dying to use that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I nearly cried watching that girl on Britain's Got Talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcarrera Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I know. But if you own Buckingham Palace, you don't get Ernie and Bert to decorate it. I'm sure Ernie and Bert know a thing or two about scotchbrite and fairy liquid JG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbl930 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 After reading my comments they are a bit harsh, what i was trying to say in my own abrasive way was that i don't get it, you spend literally years looking at every available black 930, pulling all of them to pieces and constantly saying "it's got to be the right one" etc etc, why didn't you just buy one that was almost right and work on it yourself? I understand some of the guys on here do their own work, and more power to them, but they also know that this isn't a good selling point, and most probably don't give a rats arrrr5e about resale, i have one of the most bastardized 930's in the UK, it'll never be sold and therefore it doesn't matter to me. But you come across like a bloke that is quite anal about having a mint original car, you spent an ungodly long time finding one, and then you (in my opinion) ruin it by buying sub standard parts and fitting them yourself, it makes no sense at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9hellheaven Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Its got a lot cooler today dont you think? They say we may have a spot or two of rain by the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkjse Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I once purchased a new thermostat and oil pipe from Berlin Services (thermostate was suppose to be O.E.M.), thought I was saving a bit, fitted them but could not stop them from leaking tightend them up to the point of stripping the thread a number of times (hot oil is a bugger to stop leaking). In the end purchased another pipe and thermostat from Porsche and had JZ Matchtech fit them as I was so f-----d of by the number of times I had them apart! The same time I had purchased new discs and pads from Type 911 and had them fittem by JZ matchtech plus new fluid etc, the pads were not Porsche (can't remember make) at high speed braking the car pulls to the right, took the car back to JZ and they re-blead the brakes but still the same, I have lived with it for a while now but have ordered a new set of pads from Porsche Guildford. I think I have now learnt my lesson, only buy Porsche it is cheaper in the end! kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripe Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Maybe Kev, but consider this: On the left is a set of Textar brake pads, on the right a set of Genuine Porsche pads. To fit the 3.2 Carrera. Porsche rrp £53.44. The pads carry the same manufacturer reference number and are each stamped 'Textar T400 FF' (the ones on the left come in a Textar box with a hologram seal). The only difference I can see is that the genuine pads have the Porsche logo, part number, an additional reference and a dab of yellow paint on them. The ones on the left are about £20 cheaper. You pays your money and you takes your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) Must have been crummy pads Kev, alot here run non-Porsche pads with no ill effects, quite the opposite generally. Also I've never known pads to cause offset braking, most likely a sticky caliper piston, collapsed brake line or not bled properly. You may still have the same problem even with the new 'Porsche' pads. Edited June 10, 2009 by Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevvy Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I once purchased a new thermostat and oil pipe from Berlin Services (thermostate was suppose to be O.E.M.), thought I was saving a bit, fitted them but could not stop them from leaking tightend them up to the point of stripping the thread a number of times (hot oil is a bugger to stop leaking).In the end purchased another pipe and thermostat from Porsche and had JZ Matchtech fit them as I was so f-----d of by the number of times I had them apart! The same time I had purchased new discs and pads from Type 911 and had them fittem by JZ matchtech plus new fluid etc, the pads were not Porsche (can't remember make) at high speed braking the car pulls to the right, took the car back to JZ and they re-blead the brakes but still the same, I have lived with it for a while now but have ordered a new set of pads from Porsche Guildford. I think I have now learnt my lesson, only buy Porsche it is cheaper in the end! kev As already said I doubt its pads unless some bugger marinated one of them in oil before fitting it. I'll bet sticky pistons in your calipers. I have been chasing an early lockup on the front and pull to one side for a while and it turned out to be a sticky rear caliper. I have since been around them all, 1 pad out, big spanner inbetween piston and disc, mate press brake pedal to push piston out, I lever piston back in with spanner > repeat this until you can freely move the piston in and out as your mate presses on the brake pedal. Jobs a good-un Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type911 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 As Mr Tripe says, same pads.........................maybe you like boxes? We only supply OEM pads & discs so I doubt if it is the pad Porsche have used many brake pad makers over the years, mostly German, ie; Jurid, Textar, Pagid or ATE.......................buy some new model pads from Porsche now and they will probably be Italian.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 if you do that what Jevvy says, put a few rags around the brake fluid res' and it can blow some out. Not good for you paint! I normally do this when changing pads anyway, also scrub, file, wire brush the carriers too as they can foul the caliper from moving smoothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryH Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) As already said I doubt its pads unless some bugger marinated one of them in oil before fitting it. Or your oil cooler had blown and was pi**ing oil out over the inside of your OS rear wheel - ask me how I know ? (one week after fitting brand new pads ) Edited June 10, 2009 by GaryH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 same pads.........................maybe you like boxes? Facetiousness does not become you mate! Some genuine Porsche stuff is not the best available - witness the genuine oil filter problem threads. But for things like window seals, oil hoses, gear shift bushes etc I think buy genuine 100% of the time. Not worth the minimal savings to wonder about the quality for the life of the component. End of the day it is a price versus conscience thing I think. Turbo calipers (all 911 calipers really) are notorious for sticking when not in regular use. Easy enough to drop it off and whizz the pistons over with some brake cleaner. A ride on MOT rollers usually shows imbalance problems. It will probably be there the whole way through the speed range, but most noticeable at high speed as that is where the transition from no brakes to brakes is biggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkjse Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Hi Guy's I can understand a caliper sticking on (binding a bit) but under heavey braking there is a lot of psi on those pistons! I will try swapping N/S for O/S 1st may even try freeing up a bit I have a caliper attchment with a 10 ton porta power usually does the trick of pushing the pistons back a treat! but the problem was not there until pads changed, maybe I should just stick in a 2nd hand worn set any offers (only joking) the new ones sqeak a bit as well! kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I can understand a caliper sticking on (binding a bit) but under heavey braking there is a lot of psi on those pistons! The clearances are fairly tight and even slightly pushed off will interfere with the action. I had a 33% imbalance in my fronts for one MOT a while back and the dirt on the piston was not that bad. Could be a buggered balljoint too mind or worn tyre or whatever, easy enough to check. Anyway, this thread is about oil lines and we are well off topic. Start a new one for the brakes if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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