New compressor setup?

[Phill]

I've got a new compressor It's for christmas and I'm not technically allowed to use it until then but I need to make sure it's working don't I I turned it on today to check it is functioning properly and boy is it loud!

 

It's a Sealey with 2.5 horses and a 50 litre tank so should keep me going for a while.

 

Please can someone tell me what fittings I need for the hose and tools, when I get some. The compressor is fitted with a 1/4 inch BSP female outlet. To connect a hose I will clearly need it to be male threaded but most on sale seem to be female threaded. Should I get a male/male coupler or are there male threaded hoses available?

 

That brings me to the hose itself - 8mm, 10mm, 13mm, which should I get?

 

Tools - do they come with a connector and what sort. Should I be getting some type of quick release connectors and does that mean I need some other connector for the tool end of the hose?

 

So much to learn - all help and advice will be gratefully received.

[hukent]

Machine Mart will have everything you need, or look up your local

Pneumatics company.

[GeirO]

I might have some of this at home and could prolly send you, considering it soon beeing christmas and all

 

I my self use CEJN 310 wich is also compatible with some Hansen couplings, and some of the not so good quality ones.

 

There a lots of different couplings/fittings. Some tools come with, some without.

 

In my experience, the more air needed to drive the tool properly, the bigger inner diameter fitting. CEJN 320, 410 and so on.

 

Id go for a 3/8 (~9,5mm) hose, prolly a wee bit cheeper than larger one and would suit your needs perfectly me thinks.

 

I would buy a soft middle good quality hose for air, a pvc one is attractive cost wise, but a pain if your garage is coldish and you move about with the tool.

 

Any questions, please ask.

 

 

http://www.cejn.com/

[Phill]

Machine Mart will have everything you need

 

Sadly, for reasons I won't bore you with, Machine Mart is on my "places I'll never buy from again" list. A local specialist would be good to pick the brains of though.

 

 

I might have some of this at home and could prolly send you, considering it soon beeing christmas and all

 

I my self use CEJN 310 wich is also compatible with some Hansen couplings, and some of the not so good quality ones.

 

There a lots of different couplings/fittings. Some tools come with, some without.

 

In my experience, the more air needed to drive the tool properly, the bigger inner diameter fitting. CEJN 320, 410 and so on.

 

Id go for a 3/8 (~9,5mm) hose, prolly a wee bit cheeper than larger one and would suit your needs perfectly me thinks.

 

I would buy a soft middle good quality hose for air, a pvc one is attractive cost wise, but a pain if your garage is coldish and you move about with the tool.

 

Any questions, please ask.

 

 

http://www.cejn.com/

 

Thanks for all that. If I wasn't confused I am now looking at that site. Some great stuff but looks like they could be a bit pricey. My garage is definitely cold so a flexible hose at low temperatures will be essential. I think I need to start with a decent hose and then get the connectors I need to go with it.

 

Keep it coming guys.

[hukent]

Sadly, for reasons I won't bore you with, Machine Mart is on my "places I'll never buy from again" list. A local specialist would be good to pick the brains of though.

 

Swallow your pride mate, they are by far the cheapest, and very helpfull in my experience.

 

I have two outlets (female) on mine, one I keep wound up to max. the other I run at about

40 psi, I've found this ideal. For most tools 1/2'' bore is enough, if you wish to use sanders

or tools that use a lot of CFM (check on the tool spec.) I would use 3/4'' bore hose.

Personally I find PCL couplings give the best airflow, and airseals (O rings) are easy to replace.

Edited November 28, 2010 by hukent

[GeirO]

Tools - do they come with a connector and what sort. Should I be getting some type of quick release connectors and does that mean I need some other connector for the tool end of the hose?

 

Your compressor has female treads, the plummer supplier has a male tread fitting with a hose nipple. Fit a quick release cejn or what ever you wish to the other end so that tool changing is easy. The extra £ spendt now are well worth it. Changing tools by loosening clamps and so on will soon make you go spend it anyway. The nipple to put the hose in are usually milled with quite sharp edges to make it hard for the hose to slip of as well.

 

I would go for a cejn or other good quality quick connector female at hose end, changing male nipples in tools is easy.

Usually 1/4"BSP or 1/4"NPT female treads in tools.

 

I have seen so many leaky not so good quality fittings beeing replaced by better more pricy ones and I know what solution is the most cost effective.

 

Buy connectors that are compatible with as many other makes as possible. In Norway that would be Hansen, CEJN, or Rectus.

[johndglynn]

I too go high flow like the 310 fittings mentioned. I find it noticeably faster than PCL on my compressor.

 

I use a compressor specialist in Daventry for stuff but you can buy high flow fittings in lots of places. PCL males are easy to change on tools, as Geir says.

 

I also use silicon air line on mine which is lovely stuff, though goes a bit hard in these temps. Again as Geir says

[Tripe]

Bought a box of well used air tools from Rex a couple of years ago for £50, no problems with them, then one day saw a compendium set of air tools and fittings in Lidl of all places. Bought it for £40. Came with chisel, ratchet, blower, impact gun, set of impact sockets, chisel blades, miscellaneous fittings. All made in China but have yet to break any of them. Probably wouldn't last long in a commercial workshop, nevertheless cracking value.

[johndglynn]

IMPACT SOCKETS - very important.

 

You don't want a standard socket exploding in your hand/face at 10,000 revs a minute.

[Phill]

I too go high flow like the 310 fittings mentioned. I find it noticeably faster than PCL on my compressor.

 

I use a compressor specialist in Daventry for stuff but you can buy high flow fittings in lots of places. PCL males are easy to change on tools, as Geir says.

 

I also use silicon air line on mine which is lovely stuff, though goes a bit hard in these temps. Again as Geir says

 

Thanks John. High flow it is then. I think I will have to go rubber hose for the time being as most of my garage work is in the winter. However, this weather has got even me hiding indoors!

 

 

Bought a box of well used air tools from Rex a couple of years ago for £50, no problems with them, then one day saw a compendium set of air tools and fittings in Lidl of all places. Bought it for £40. Came with chisel, ratchet, blower, impact gun, set of impact sockets, chisel blades, miscellaneous fittings. All made in China but have yet to break any of them. Probably wouldn't last long in a commercial workshop, nevertheless cracking value.

 

I've seen these types of sets on Ebay but always thought they would be too good to be true at the price. Maybe I'll give one a go.

[Fred]

what the hell do you lot use a compressor for???? is not for painting and that kind of malarkey?

[MrPerkles]

what the hell do you lot use a compressor for???? is not for painting and that kind of malarkey?

inflating hamsters

[Fred]

inflating hamsters

 

 

It works!!

[mascot100]

A socket exploding at 10,000 rpm - what are you doing spinning them that fast John? But I agree I smashed a standard socket using it on an impact driver - quite scary when it let fly! Screwfix do some reasonable stuff - including hose.

[johndglynn]

A socket exploding at 10,000 rpm - what are you doing spinning them that fast John?

Little bit of journalistic licence there

[Phill]

After much deliberation just ordered hose. 15m x 9.5mm bore.

 

Now, I've seen much about lubrication on the net, of the tools that is, and filtration.

 

Should I get one of these in line filters (looks a bit rubbish to me)?

 

Or should I get one of these and mount it on the wall near the compressor so when I spray I just plug it in line with a short piece of hose?

 

To lube the tools do I need one of these in line lubricators

 

or should I get one of these lubricators and filters

 

However if I have the dual jobby can I isolate the lube part when I spray?

Edited December 3, 2010 by Phill

[GaryH]

Screwfix do some reasonable stuff - including hose.

[MrPerkles]

After much deliberation just ordered hose. 15m x 9.5mm bore.

 

Now, I've seen much about lubrication on the net, of the tools that is, and filtration.

 

Should I get one of these in line filters (looks a bit rubbish to me)?

 

Or should I get one of these and mount it on the wall near the compressor so when I spray I just plug it in line with a short piece of hose?

 

To lube the tools do I need one of these in line lubricators

 

or should I get one of these lubricators and filters

 

However if I have the dual jobby can I isolate the lube part when I spray?

Phil if you want to spray you cant use a lubed line its one or the other im afraid.Those filters wont work and will last 10 minutes ,buy one of these from Jawels they are about £40

in fact lubed lines are rubbish anyhow ,we use desouter tools at work and never use a lubed line,just lube up when required.Nige knows the score here

[Phill]

Thanks Andy,

 

So just a filter then and have it plugged in all the time? I assume tools just get lubed direct then?

[MrPerkles]

Thanks Andy,

 

So just a filter then and have it plugged in all the time? I assume tools just get lubed direct then?

yep, different story if your using them 8 hours a day but for hobby use your good to go

[Phill]

Excellent, thanks very much.

[hukent]

Excellent, thanks very much.

 

Buy a small bottle of Air Tool Oil, and drip one drop into the air inlet every now and then,

just to keep the vanes lubed.

Unless the tools are used constantly, in line oilers are a pain, and cheap filters are useless.

Edited December 3, 2010 by hukent

[Von Twinzig]

Buy a small bottle of Air Tool Oil, and drip one drop into the air inlet every now and then,

just to keep the vanes lubed.

Unless the tools are used constantly, in line oilers are a pain, and cheap filters are useless.

That's what I did, works fine.

[REX]

Bought a box of well used air tools from Rex a couple of years ago for £50, no problems with them, then one day saw a compendium set of air tools and fittings in Lidl of all places. Bought it for £40. Came with chisel, ratchet, blower, impact gun, set of impact sockets, chisel blades, miscellaneous fittings. All made in China but have yet to break any of them. Probably wouldn't last long in a commercial workshop, nevertheless cracking value.

 

Ooops, IIRC Teaboy set the price though. I'll buy them back if i get my new man shed.

[lexz32]

What about these wolfAir compressors cheap and cheery but are they any good 3hp or 2.5hp ? probably do all the things I need

 

http://www.ukhs.tv/Workshop/Air-Compressor...ional-Spray-Kit