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bloody hell, that's a crazy price :o think I might get out of this Porsche game, its just become a fleecing market :angry:

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54 minutes ago, SilverWT said:

Someone asked on another thread what the current going rate for a 3.6 is, well this dishevelled 964 lump was on the shelf at BS Motorsports on Saturday...

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Guess how much...

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Hmm 

Mark

 

 

 

what a joke!

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Makes me feel a bit better :)

Neil has a fully rebuilt 993 'RSR-esque' engine for £42k:

993 RSR Style Engine [Making 372bhp] on Dyno engine Complete ready to Fit.

993 3.8ltr Engine Rebuilt with very little use has also just had a top end inspection and Piston type change, Engine has New "Elite Engine Systems" Big Valve Heads, RSR Sprint Cams , Jenvey TB Kit, Bottom End of engine has GT3 Crank GT3 Oil Pump, Arrow Con-rods, RS Flywheel, Engine will be supplied complete with EMS fully remapped complete engine ready to fit other than clutch kit

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If this is now the going price, I'm glad I decided to retain my 3.2 rather than go for a 3.6 conversion. 

Unless of course, that is a typo and he actually meant £8000...🤔 🤷‍♂️

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Just now, Sidewaysfun said:

Unless of course, that is a typo and he actually meant £8000...🤔 🤷‍♂️

Even 8K seems high for it in that condition lol 

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Wondering what the market rate is - has anyone actually bought a 3.6 in the past 6 months or so?

Looking at this website, he seems to have sold a number of SC/3.2 engines (no dates), so assuming his pricing won’t be too far off.

Bif of an :blink: nonetheless.

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1 minute ago, SP72 said:

Wondering what the market rate is - has anyone actually bought a 3.6 in the past 6 months or so?

Looking at this website, he seems to have sold a number of SC/3.2 engines (no dates), so assuming his pricing won’t be too far off.

Bif of an :blink: nonetheless.

Yeah, I bought a seen running (by me at time of purchase) 61k miles 3.6 varioram with ECU etc, from a know/respected company for £10k about 2 months ago and I am happy with that price. 18k seems way to much for a partial engine, unless it has some special history or something.

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Just now, T6bhs said:

Yeah, I bought a seen running (by me at time of purchase) 61k miles 3.6 varioram with ECU etc, from a know/respected company for £10k about 2 months ago and I am happy with that price. 18k seems way to much for a partial engine, unless it has some special history or something.

That’s sounds more like it. What are you putting it into? 

And that’s a cheap way to 280hp 

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2 minutes ago, T6bhs said:

A backdate rsr/outlaw based on a 1987 3.2 Carrara. Still in bodywork stage but getting there.

Pictures of the build are on instagram at https://www.instagram.com/911rsroutlaw/

Awesome. Love the lift. Like Jack Olsens’ set up. I should have fitted one when I built my garage. 

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39 minutes ago, Busybee said:

Awesome. Love the lift. Like Jack Olsens’ set up. I should have fitted one when I built my garage. 

 

I was thinking 10K for this sort of engine as a starting point as well. Though TBH not basing that on any meaningful research 

Yep love the lift (love the car as well) - where id you get the table lift and what was the spec?

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1 minute ago, sladey said:

Yep love the lift (love the car as well) - where id you get the table lift and what was the spec?

I got it from eBay, the guy used it to remove engines on tractor racing tractors. It’s rated at SWB of 2000kg. He’d to get a VFD as it was originally 3 phase. It seems overkill now but at least I feel totally safe under it. (It has twin pistons both with parachute valves and a mechanical stop)

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1 minute ago, sladey said:

Yep love the lift (love the car as well) - where id you get the table lift and what was the spec?

I got it from eBay, the guy used it to remove engines on tractor racing tractors. It’s rated at SWB of 2000kg. He’d to get a VFD as it was originally 3 phase. It seems overkill now but at least I feel totally safe under it. (It has twin pistons both with parachute valves and a mechanical stop)

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Shouldn't really be surprised that 3.6's engines have gone up significantly in value. So have 3.2's 3.0's 2.7's the whole lot.

If you could buy IB's for £15k 10-15 years ago and a used engine then would cost maybe £3k then if the cars value has tripled to £45k then why be surprised that the engine value has too. I think that there is a trend for people tend to want their cars as original as possible or modify also want to shoehorn in a big engine into a backdate to make their own Singer-esque cars. 

Bottom line - You can't have your cake and eat it. Not too many IB owners complaining much their car is worth now when they come to sell it. What has changed is the people buying them and the negative aspects such as insurance hikes, spares/upgrade parts price hikes and some specialist prices riding the crest of the wave for their services.....

Having said that, BS motorsport asking £18k for that is very hopeful. Double it and then you can get the rest of the car thrown in.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-964-911-1991-CARRERA-4-C4-88K-KMS-A-C-LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-LHD-MANUAL/163203234455?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-964-3-6-CARRERA-4-COUPE-LHD-LEFT-HAND-DRIVE/183385839967?hash=item2ab2a5d95f:g:9jQAAOSwHwNbeDDY

 

 

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9 hours ago, ALEX P said:

Hopefully cars like this don't get broken up for spares. 

Starting to get very tempted to go down this road for my own car. It would be great winter project and the hotrod 3.0 I have in the back would go someway to cover the costs if someone was looking for a turnkey 3.0.

 

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I bought a 993 Varioram engine complete with all ancillaries, wiring and ECU for half of that. Yes, the condition was a gamble, despite doing a leakdown test. With luck it's turned out to be a strong lump making 303bhp which is marginally more than most standard Varioram engines do on Wayne's dyno. £18k for an outwardly rough looking 964 that is sold as seen with no warranty seems bonkers to me.

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I think this is great. I've been watching this and $5000 / £3780 is pretty reasonable considering the outlay and effort involved in producing the final product.

I can see a lot of engine builders speccing big money builds using this, not so much you 964 backdates but particularly for earlier cars who's owners want more puff than the smaller displacement engines could ever make and finding used 3.6's is getting harder and harder.

It would be fun to make up your own wish list using this as your base then GT3 crank, 3.8 / 4.0 P&C's...... Let your imagination and wallet run riot!

 

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