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1976 Carrera 3 Rebuild, again!

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Sometimes a project takes a little longer that anticipated, life seems to throw curved balls that can stop a cars restoration.

 

Well it's has been sometime, the old girl has languished in my mothers garage for to many years. I had some quality issues with work that had been carried out and needed these addressed before the Carrera 3.0 rolled onto the road. I had tried to get the car finished but living in Lewes and storing the car 250 miles away does no make a happy project. I came to the conclusion just over a year ago I needed help! (to get the car on the road). After many conversations over the years it was decided that Alan @ Canford Classics was the best person for the job.

 

After discussing the project for sometime with Alan we agreed a start date. The car was picked up on the 8th March by his very reliable driver. The project had really grown legs and previous works that included welding, paint prep, painting and assembly by the last amateur are very evident. Whilst starting the disassembly it was clearly evident that the previous works had been done to a very poor standard.

 

Alan has now started the removal of all panels, welding, paint by the previous company. To say I'm a little miffed by the quality of the original respray is a big understatement. I won't use this forum as a sounding board but only give the following advise "use a recognised Porsche specialist only" when working on classic Porsche.

 

The restoration will include a full suspension/brake rebuild, welding, body alignment, repaint and assembily (this list could grow) The car will now be stripped! properly welded, and assembled. The car now sits @ Canford Classics weld shop and I'm awaiting the next visit to view the progress (images to follow).

 

Regards

 

 

Anthony

 

Pick up image:

 

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The strip down

 

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Anthony, you must be a very talented photographer as that car looks in pretty good shape in the photos!

 

Are the nasty bits lurking underneath that shiny paint?

 

Good luck with the restoration.

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Alex it is a lovley car and does look great from a distance. With all restoration the devil is in the detail and I had a large number of panels that looked great from 8 ft away. When looking closer I had bigger paint issues that will require a full repray to eradicate. All I can say to any person wishing to get a Porsche painted don't use an individual in Neath, South Wales. We all learn from these issues and I look forward to the day she rolls again.

 

Regards

 

 

Anthony

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Little update, the welding is going well and I'm due to view the shell next Friday. I will have some more photos and a progress update next week. The welding list so far includes:

 

1. Front tank support and front wheel well.

2. Rear lower screen corner panel.

3. Removal of poorly assembled kidney bowl's and insert of new.

4. Correct sill to chassis connection.

5. Front A arm support repair.

6. New engine lid release metalwork tube.

7. Reshaping and welding outer sill to get a consistent panel gap.

 

Photos coming soon

 

Regards

 

Anthony

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Small update today, mild steel suspension parts back from blasting and powder coating, all looking great and new. Ready for the fresh polycarbonate bushing.

 

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Regards

 

 

Anthony

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Alex it is a lovley car and does look great from a distance. With all restoration the devil is in the detail and I had a large number of panels that looked great from 8 ft away. When looking closer I had bigger paint issues that will require a full repray to eradicate. All I can say to any person wishing to get a Porsche painted don't use an individual in Neath, South Wales. We all learn from these issues and I look forward to the day she rolls again.

 

Regards

 

 

Anthony

I've seen the car close up and can confirm that the old saying "a camera never lies" is, in fact, a lie in itself. Whoever did the original "restoration" should be ashamed of themselves - and some of the issues have nothing to do with them not being a Porsche specialist!

Needless to say, after Alan and co have finished with the car, it won't only look good in photographs - it will actually stand up to the closest scrutiny.

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Chris

 

Friday should be a good day to see the car and look at the progress I am really look forward to detailed assessment of the work done. I have a lot of confidence using Canford Classics ,I hope I can afford to finish the restoration properly.

 

Ant

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Anthony,

 

It will be worth the cost and the wait. As you know, the Carrera 3's star is in the ascendancy and a full Canford Classics restoration can only enhance it's value. I'm often at Canford making a general nuisance of myself so I'm sure our paths will cross sometime. Are you planning to be there tomorrow?

 

Chris

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Chris

 

Thanks for the encouragement, I hope your comment's don't make me spend more money! My budget keeps growing, I must stop spending money I dont have. I will be at Canford tomorrow may see.

 

Ant

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To anyone who's watching a little update on the Carrera:

 

Had an early start this morning, traveling to see the shell at the weld shop, then onto the main Canford Classic workshop to review the refurb of the suspension, brake and steering components. As usual Alan was very accommodating even though his team are very busy. I was really pleased with the results of the refurb work. The bill for the repaint and the re-welding is a bitter pill to swallow but I will have a very high quality job that has removed all previous attempts to restore the car.

 

After clearly seeing the shocking state the previous amateur had installed the panels on the shell did shock me. I would like to give a measured responce but in many area's the work could possible fail with much bigger implications (but I will let you come o your own conclusions). The people working in the weld shop cleary had a real pashion and spent sometime explaining why they had to remove and replace every panel ALSA Automotive had incorrectly installed.

 

Less of the negative, here are some photos of the work to date and nice shinny bits!

 

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Welding on the shell very much work in progress with area's such as the rear 1/4 still to be completed:

 

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Anthony

 

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Supper OCD look at the rear banana arm, casting date!

 

2nd March 1976, don't you love this kind of detail?

 

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Okay maybe just me?

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The consistent panel gap is a difficult art to achieve but very beautiful when correct.

Still very much work in progress and the panel gap will be improved once fully finished.

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A little update, the shell know has all welding competed. All panel gaps consistent and previous bodging removed, ready for delivery to the paint shop. Visiting next Friday so should be able to take some more detailed photo's. Will be really good to discuss with Alan and the team the next stage.

 

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Very nice progress!

 

I was once tempted to strip mine to a shell but could not afford to pay for it in one hit and didn't really want to be without the car for so long - with hindsight, somewhat foolish!

 

Keep the pics coming, good to see another IB getting sorted properly.

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SP72 thanks for your comments. I've been following your car's progress it's looks fantastic a real street racer with a really nice bespoke attitude. Love the gold on Metalic grey, should I do the same on red?

 

Ant

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Red and gold centres? It's not to my taste, although it could work - I just feel there should be more contrast between the two colours. Maybe get someone on here to do a photoshop?

 

Saying that, your car looked pretty peachy in it's original colours too :)

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Gold on Red just throwing it out into the forum just to provoke a response (do prefer black on red) I'm more inclined to go for: frosted anodised inner rim (RSR finish) with a semi polished edge, with a satin black centre.

 

Getting cold feet about reinstating the single flag mirror do I:

 

A. Reinstall the single flag mirror.

B. keep the single 935 cam shell mirror.

C. Fit an early 3.0 RS aluminium mirror in black or polished aluminium.

 

Descision's?

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Gold on Red just throwing it out into the forum just to provoke a response <snipped>

Descision's?

Google 3.0RS images - gold centres with red paint looks fantastic. Also look for Magnus Walkers red STR with gold campag rep wheels and red paint. It's a good look. Its very period as well. I reckon my next wheels will be gold centred.

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Re mirrors, IMO chrome mirror with chrome trim only

 

Although in my search for a single RHD black 74 mirror, I saw an official porsche pic orange 911 with chrome mirror and black trim. Looked odd to me...

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IMHO the flag mirror "speaks" the same design language of the impact bumpers.

 

I sold the Durrants I had on mine when I bought it and am happy with the flags back on. Will be happier still after they will be re-wired in - the PO threw away that loom section!

 

Whatever your choice, you will have a fabulous car, good luck :)

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Decision made, Single flag mirror going back on (with that missing loom section), wheels & Tyres next!

 

Car with Flag mirror back in the day, before I had these issues and it was just a rough C3 with bad paint, rust bad gearbox and dropped oil!.

 

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Anthony

 

Wow - your C3 is going to look very tasty when finished especially with all those lovely shiny bits!

Looks like a proper job!

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Thanks R2D2, it's been a long time in the planning and the journey has taught me many thing about Porsche and who should be trusted with our pride & Joy. I had the pleasure of visiting Alan @ Canford Classics on Friday, with the gloom of cutting, welding and finding more previous 'restoration issues' fully eradicated. I now feel that the process has started to get really interesting. At this point I must really thank Alan and his great team they are really busy, but find the time to answer my OCD questions (Monday morning 2 page emails a shock for anyone!).

 

Back to the restoration and we have lots new and refurbished components being assembled:

 

Rear RSR discs, cross drilled, hats machined to reduce o/a rotating mass all done my Canford Classics, I love these.

 

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Rear Banana arm being assembled with fully restored & new components.

 

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Some of the other items:

 

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Thanks for looking

 

Ant

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Welding is now complete and the shell will now been delivered for prep. I am really struggling with tyres I have 7" Fuchs fronts and 8" Fuchs rears. Tried many option and I really don't like the 50 series tyres as they don't fill the arch correctly. Looked at so many options in the following sizes:

 

205/60R15, 225/60R15: with a minimum speed rating of V 149mph

 

Falken ZE 912, Fulda ECOCONTROL HP, Pirrelli P6000, Kumho KH17, Continental Premium Contact,

 

or a could use a 195/65R15 front and a 215/60R15 rear but this was the standard figment or 6 & 7 Fuchs. I really would like your thoughts?

 

Ant

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The original sizes for 6s and 7s or 7s and 8s was 185/70R15 and 215/60R15. These sizes are very hard to find in a matching set with the correct speed rating apart from Avon CRZZ and Michelin XWX, both of which are very expensive. You may be able to find more tyres in 195/65R15 and 215/60R15 such as Pirelli P6000 or Conti SportContact.

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