suckho Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I have 1982 RoW SC myself and have driven one other SC (1981 Row) and three C3.2 (two 1984 coupes with 915 and one 1987 targa with G50). The G50-carrera I drove before my own car so can't really compare it.. Other cars are my brother's and friends' cars. I would say that performance is pretty much comparable between 204bhp SC and 231bhp C3.2. I have tested acceleration side by side on highway and not much or any difference. C3.2 has a little bit higher top speed due to 5th gear ratio. However, they feel somewhat different on how they deliver the power. As said many times before, in my personal opinion, SC feels more responsive and more willing to rev compared to later Carrera. SC is certainly not absolutely faster, but it somehow feels that it was. My own SC has pre-74 style SSI exhaust so that may give some extra at least in sounds (placebo effect maybe)? These are old cars so there are also differences between examples of exactly the same model. Every car feels unique, especially the clutch and the gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teme Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Being the owner of one of the 3.2 Carreras that suckho refers to above and having driven his SC I concur with his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
786 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Was reading an old Evo issue (before the mag became rubbish) comparing several generations of 911. They were particularly critical of the 3.2 and 993. Regarding the 3.2, they faulted the heavy steering and too much mechanical grip making the car less fun/exploitable than the SC. My question is, as both the SC and 3.2 have unassisted steering, how is the 3.2 rack so much heavier/worse than the SC? I initially assumed both faults levied at the 3.2, heavy steering and too much mechanical grip, were due to wider 16” wheels but the attached spec sheet shows identical tire sizes for both SC and 3.2 tested. Seems strange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
786 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Here’s what they wrote for both cars, doesn’t make sense to me as both the 3.2 and SC were on identical sized tires and 15 inch wheels. The steering and mechanical grip should be similar no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
786 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 In their pics the 3.2 appears to be on 16 inch wheels but their spec sheet says otherwise, maybe that is the issue. Just a typo on their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Comerford Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I’m happy to accept their view that the SC is a better car..... they are professionals after al! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ian Comerford said: I’m happy to accept their view that the SC is a better car..... they are professionals after al! ^ yep, I agree, they know what they're talking about.......... Who is al? Edited November 28, 2019 by Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
786 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Lol at the SC guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Comerford Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Lighter, zingier....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 'it's very hard to beat a 964 Carrera 2' 😎😍 A stripped out lightweight one is even more fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesworth Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, Ian Comerford said: Lighter, zingier....... And it is a 'Super' Carrera after all 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longman Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Lesworth said: And it is a 'Super' Carrera after all 😉 ‘Starter’ Carrera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyaque Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, longman said: ‘Starter’ Carrera Works for me! 😁😁😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, longman said: ‘Starter’ Carrera True, mine starts every time........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWT Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, 786 said: but their spec sheet says otherwise The 3.2 is a 1987/8 UK RHD car and so it is almost 100% certain it came with 16" wheels as appears to be shown in the pictures. We all know the big difference options/maintenance/alignment can make to the feel of how the same type of 911 drives. All else being equal there is little difference in feel between an SC and 915 3.2, a little bit more difference between both of them and a G50 3.2, good or bad is subjective. The only way to do this would be to put all four cars into the same garage and get them checked for factory alignment, originality, option differences, etc. before the test. Mark Edited November 29, 2019 by SilverWT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 They are all amazing to be fair. SC is zingy is true. 3.2 feels more grunty. Mark is right (or should that be Mark is Wright with the jungle at the min), alignment makes a huge difference. I saw that with Shirley. In my pre CG setup that morning, I went down a bumpy B road at 60mph and the car was all over the place. Holding on. Same car, same everything but the suspension setup that afternoon, 90 and I wasn't really trying. Private roads you understand You'd need just set up and serviced cars running the same size wheels, same size and make of tyres to make a subjective comparison. Even then, engines vary between the same model, with mileage, maintenance etc. Shall we all just agree they are all Super Carrera's 🤣 and looking pretty damn hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP72 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 “Just because you hit 6k on your tach, it doesn’t mean you are travelling quickly”* * I made this appear to be a famous quote but actually I just made it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesworth Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, SilverWT said: The only way to do this would be to put all four cars into the same garage and get them checked for factory alignment, originality, option differences, etc. before the test. That's a good point Mark. My zingy Super Carrera had quite heavy steering but after a proper suspension set up and it now feels very light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northy Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 It's a long time ago now, but I remember noticing a difference between 6s up front and 7s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
786 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 12 hours ago, SilverWT said: We all know the big difference options/maintenance/alignment can make to the feel of how the same type of 911 drives. All else being equal there is little difference in feel between an SC and 915 3.2 True, and I thought they had the same or similar manual racks so was surprised at the review. It all must boil down to wheel/tire size and alignment/suspension health as you say. I have also been told a lightweight flywheel adds zinginess to a 3.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWT Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 9 hours ago, 786 said: I thought they had the same or similar manual racks Identical. I have an '83 SC and an '84 3.2, neither have standard setups now, but the one with the much much heavier steering (at lower speed) is the SC. No discernible difference in weight at road speed, but the 3.2 has much better turn in when you go for it. The SCs PO had it set up by a very well known specialist for "fast road" and I have just left it as it is, as its great for a road car. I set up the 3.2 myself for road and track. I'm sure with 20 minutes of work I could swap the characteristics over if I wanted. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP0ZZZ Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 11/29/2019 at 8:31 AM, 786 said: Here’s what they wrote for both cars, doesn’t make sense to me as both the 3.2 and SC were on identical sized tires and 15 inch wheels. The steering and mechanical grip should be similar no? Can you tell the brand/model of the tyres from the pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
786 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) Looks like Pirellis on the SC, not sure about the 3.2. This letter in the next issue was interesting... Edited December 1, 2019 by 786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaky Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Is a Zinger Burger better than a Tower burger.....................just asking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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