Vehicle Lift?

[Rustybum]

2 hours ago, Chris_911 said:

So I've bounced around to this topic once again.

I'm going to be replacing my fuel lines early next year and my thoughts have turned to making life easier.

@Rustybum @MaxDiesel any further thoughts on the BHrepairs lift you both have?

I need something compact that can reside under the car.

Really happy with it.😁👍

Just make sure, if you buy one,  you’ve got a big enough fuse/breaker switch to cope with it.

It comes with a plug but I’ve had to fit a 16amp breaker.

Regards

Russ

Edited December 20, 2019 by Rustybum

[Chris_911]

11 minutes ago, Rustybum said:

Really happy with it.😁👍

Just make sure, if you buy one,  you’ve got a big enough fuse/breaker switch to cope with it.

It comes with a plug but I’ve had to fit a 16amp breaker.

Regards

Russ

Thanks Russ!

Have you used it with any other vehicle than an IB?

Edited December 20, 2019 by Chris_911

[MaxDiesel]

12 hours ago, Chris_911 said:

So I've bounced around to this topic once again.

I'm going to be replacing my fuel lines early next year and my thoughts have turned to making life easier.

@Rustybum @MaxDiesel any further thoughts on the BHrepairs lift you both have?

I need something compact that can reside under the car.

Hi Chris

Yes - I'm really pleased with the BH Repairs lift - for the type of work I'm doing on the 914 its been ideal. Being able to move the car to the right height for each bit of welding is a massive help. Also dropping the suspension off was a breeze - the combination of lift and a Makita impact driver made for rapid progress!!

I haven't used it for an engine drop yet but I'm sure it'll work well for this too - it'll save the hour or so I spend jacking up one and then the other to get the car on my big axles stands.

For me it was important to be able to move the lift between two garages - I'm not sure I'd want to be driving over it each time I park the car though. For when the lift's not in use I'm planning to stand it vertically against the wall - I just need to figure out exactly how I'll do this!

Cheers Matt

Edited December 20, 2019 by MaxDiesel

[Chris_911]

13 hours ago, MaxDiesel said:

Hi Chris

Yes - I'm really pleased with the BH Repairs lift - for the type of work I'm doing on the 914 its been ideal. Being able to move the car to the right height for each bit of welding is a massive help. Also dropping the suspension off was a breeze - the combination of lift and a Makita impact driver made for rapid progress!!

I haven't used it for an engine drop yet but I'm sure it'll work well for this too - it'll save the hour or so I spend jacking up one and then the other to get the car on my big axles stands.

For me it was important to be able to move the lift between two garages - I'm not sure I'd want to be driving over it each time I park the car though. For when the lift's not in use I'm planning to stand it vertically against the wall - I just need to figure out exactly how I'll do this!

Cheers Matt

Thank  you Matt!

[Baz]

As per chris I have got a 2 poster with the H shape base, to get low cars over the cross beam I put scaffold boards on the floor then swing the arms under the car. My lift is a true 6ft lift which is great for access, as said before the posts do get in the way for opening doors. The really good ones now are much wider with articulated arms which gives much more room. When i took the engine out of my SC I did it home in a large single garage, I used a pallet truck with a pallet on it under the engine and box then used a ratchet pull lift to lift the car up then slid the engine out simples and safe. The 2 poster in the dream garage would be great but if you had that much money you wouldn't be working on your own car.     Baz 

[Chris_911]

@Rustybum @MaxDiesel

Can you tell if your lifts are a try vertical lift - as the car lifts does it move fore/aft to any degree?

I have very limited length in my garage so a lift that does not lift truly vertically will need some careful positioning.

Also, can the lift be stopped and used safely at any height?

Thanks!

[Busybee]

Thinking of one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SHORT-2-POST-LIFT-CAR-VEHICLE-RAMP-LIFT-HOIST-3-0-T-TWO-POST-RAMP-3000Kg/283449125885?hash=item41fee26bfd:g:45cAAOSwuJlciMW4

[Rustybum]

21 minutes ago, Chris_911 said:

@Rustybum @MaxDiesel

Can you tell if your lifts are a try vertical lift - as the car lifts does it move fore/aft to any degree?

I have very limited length in my garage so a lift that does not lift truly vertically will need some careful positioning.

Also, can the lift be stopped and used safely at any height?

Thanks!

I have a tiny garage, that’s why I chose this lift due to it being very moveable.

It’s heavy but it’s got castors on the pump/lever and rollers on the legs at the other end of the lift.

So it’s really easy to move and position it.

As far as I can tell it lifts straight up and doesn’t move forward/backwards when doing so. If it does it’s minimal.

There are locking slots about every three inches on the locking bar which a lever mechanism drops into,  so yes,  it can be used safely at multiple heights. To release it you pull a lever on the pump assembly.
There's also a good selection of different height pads that come with it.

Unfortunately I’m back in Switzerland now for a couple of months as you would have been welcome to come and see it being used.

Have you seen one in “action” anywhere?

Regards

Russ

 

Edited January 6, 2020 by Rustybum

[Chris_911]

Just now, Rustybum said:

I have a tiny garage, that’s why I chose this lift due to it being very moveable.

It’s heavy but it’s got castors on the pump/lever and rollers on the legs at the other end of the lift.

So it’s really easy to move and position it.

As far as I can tell it lifts straight up and doesn’t move forward/backwards when doing so. If it does it’s minimal.

There are locking slots about every three inches on the locking bar which a locking mechanism drops into,  so yes,  it can be used safely at multiple heights. To release it you pull a lever on the pump assembly.
There's also a good selection of different height pads that come with it.

Unfortunately I’m back in Switzerland now for a couple of months as you would have been welcome to come and see it being used.

Have you seen one in “action” anywhere?

Regards

Russ

 

Thanks Russ - just want I wanted to know 😊

Haven't seen one 'in action' - the supplier did give me the contact details of someone local that has bought one but not made contact as yet.

I'm also talking to my electrician mate re the cost of the correct supply....

[Rustybum]

14 minutes ago, Chris_911 said:

Thanks Russ - just want I wanted to know 😊

Haven't seen one 'in action' - the supplier did give me the contact details of someone local that has bought one but not made contact as yet.

I'm also talking to my electrician mate re the cost of the correct supply....

No worries.

When I first tried it it tripped a breaker which was replaced by a slightly bigger one (16amp I think) But it could just have been an initial surge. It’s fine now. 
Have you watched the video here? http://www.bhrepairs.co.uk/

It might be worth giving them a call to double check the vertical lift “straightness” but it looks pretty straight in the video. Sorry but I can’t 100% confirm this but the legs are on rollers which pinch together when the lift is raised and the lift is not able to move on the other end as there’s no wheels so I’m pretty sure it goes up straight.

Regards

Russ

 

 

[Andy352]

I've recently installed a Twin Busch garage height two post lift. Delivery was very efficient, I installed it myself and am delighted with it. I've not had the IB on it yet but will post some photos when I do. Price was good. https://twinbusch.co.uk/index.php?cPath=2

[Chris_911]

2 hours ago, Andy352 said:

I've recently installed a Twin Busch garage height two post lift. Delivery was very efficient, I installed it myself and am delighted with it. I've not had the IB on it yet but will post some photos when I do. Price was good. https://twinbusch.co.uk/index.php?cPath=2

Nice but I don't have the space for something like that.

[MaxDiesel]

6 hours ago, Chris_911 said:

@Rustybum @MaxDiesel

Can you tell if your lifts are a try vertical lift - as the car lifts does it move fore/aft to any degree?

I have very limited length in my garage so a lift that does not lift truly vertically will need some careful positioning.

Also, can the lift be stopped and used safely at any height?

Thanks!

I can check this on mine - I'm pretty sure it moves the car a little towards the fixed non-roller end as it lifts, but probably only around a foot from min to max. I'll check.

[MaxDiesel]

1 hour ago, MaxDiesel said:

I can check this on mine - I'm pretty sure it moves the car a little towards the fixed non-roller end as it lifts, but probably only around a foot from min to max. I'll check.

Just measured on mine - distance between bumper over-rider and the end wall of my garage with the car at floor level and then at max lift height: As per above it moves slightly in the direction of the non-roller end - its less than I thought though - around 110mm total. This is between extremes - and mostly at top of the height range due to the geometry. For an engine drop I doubt the forward/backward movement would be more than an inch over the height range you'd use.

[Busybee]

Helped a mate install this over the last few days. Think I want one! 

[Chris_911]

11 hours ago, MaxDiesel said:

Just measured on mine - distance between bumper over-rider and the end wall of my garage with the car at floor level and then at max lift height: As per above it moves slightly in the direction of the non-roller end - its less than I thought though - around 110mm total. This is between extremes - and mostly at top of the height range due to the geometry. For an engine drop I doubt the forward/backward movement would be more than an inch over the height range you'd use.

Brilliant - thank you! This lift is definitely my favoured option.

 

9 hours ago, Busybee said:

Helped a mate install this over the last few days. Think I want one! 

Well if you have the space.....

[Busybee]

21 minutes ago, Chris_911 said:

Well if you have the space.....

Unfortunately I don’t. Looking at the short ones though. Either that or I’ve asked my mate to have a blinking good clean up, paint his floor and generally make his shed Porsche ready 😂😜

[WP0ZZZ]

21 hours ago, Andy352 said:

I've recently installed a Twin Busch garage height two post lift. Delivery was very efficient, I installed it myself and am delighted with it. I've not had the IB on it yet but will post some photos when I do. Price was good. https://twinbusch.co.uk/index.php?cPath=2

Please post photos! I'm also looking at Twin Busch lifts. They seem to have competitive pricing and they seem good enough for the home mechanic.

Did you pour a large concrete slab on your garage floor? I'm unsure about the thickness/strenght of the concrete floor in my garage but I suspect it is not as thick as Twin Busch requires in their documentation.

[Andy352]

I'm out of the country just now so this is the only photo I've got. I didn't strengthen my floor but put an H beam across the top of the lift. I don't have any more head height so the beam does not affect the lifting height for me. So much easier to work on brakes, hubs etc. 

[mean in green]

What do Busch recommend as far as concrete type and minimum thickness go (for a two post it can’t be thick enough?).

I like the look of the BH one more, as it wouldn’t be much effort to sink it into the floor with a cover plate same height as floor screed when not in use. The moveable hydraulic pack and good access seem good.

[WP0ZZZ]

13 hours ago, mean in green said:

What do Busch recommend as far as concrete type and minimum thickness go (for a two post it can’t be thick enough?).

I like the look of the BH one more, as it wouldn’t be much effort to sink it into the floor with a cover plate same height as floor screed when not in use. The moveable hydraulic pack and good access seem good.

You can find the requirements in their website if you go to the downloads section of each lift model.

For example, for this lift:

the requirements are

https://twinbusch.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=155#horizontalTab2

[Andy352]

On 1/7/2020 at 9:48 AM, WP0ZZZ said:

Please post photos! I'm also looking at Twin Busch lifts. They seem to have competitive pricing and they seem good enough for the home mechanic.

Did you pour a large concrete slab on your garage floor? I'm unsure about the thickness/strenght of the concrete floor in my garage but I suspect it is not as thick as Twin Busch requires in their documentation.

Here's some photos of my Twin Busch lift with my IB on it. It's still 100mm from the beams and has 1150mm of clearance from the floor. 

Did all the brake pads on my Macan last week and the lift made the job so much easier. 

[Chris_911]

So I'm starting to carry out my fuel line refresh and re-discovering that ball ache of getting the car up in the air and supporting it safely.

I simply can't stretch to the scissor lift I really want.

BUT have been thinking about a pair of hydraulic ramps, these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/900kg-Hydraulic-Car-Ramps-Hydraulic-Car-Lifts-Adjustable-Low-Car-Ramps-DDD/303516375814?hash=item46aafc5b06:g:RioAAOSwu1FdqK8p

Much easier and quicker to get the front or back of the car up in the air and onto axle stands if needed. And I could stretch to a pair cost-wise.

Anybody have any thoughts or experience of these, good or bad?

I also had a think about a tilting lift (roughly the same price as the hydraulic ramps), like this: https://www.cjautos.eu/NEW_3_IN_1_TILTING_CAR_LIFT_p/cl01.htm

BUT the lifting platforms aren't long enough to reach the lifting pads on the chassis, so it looks as though the vehicle weight is reacted where it shouldn't be.

Am I missing something?

[Busybee]

Those look really cool to be fair. My only thought is at £400, you are only getting one end of the car up as with a jack/stands at one end really. And that's fairly easy to do right. It's the whole car up that's a much bigger ball ache?

For the extra for one of those cheap scissor lifts, you'd get the whole car up in the air, it'd be higher and they're not much more than two pairs of those. Completely understand its a big wedge more but I'd say you'd always pine for a scissor lift. 

[Chris_911]

1 hour ago, Busybee said:

Those look really cool to be fair. My only thought is at £400, you are only getting one end of the car up as with a jack/stands at one end really. And that's fairly easy to do right. It's the whole car up that's a much bigger ball ache?

For the extra for one of those cheap scissor lifts, you'd get the whole car up in the air, it'd be higher and they're not much more than two pairs of those. Completely understand its a big wedge more but I'd say you'd always pine for a scissor lift. 

A scissor is right out of touch currently. Going to be circa £1400 plus the work to upgrade the garage electrics.

I think the hydraulic ramps would add an awful lot of convenience.