Chris_911 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Nine weeks to the day after placing my order my Eisenmann exhaust arrived this morning. My impressions so far are fairly negative. Inadequate packing has led to the ends of the heat exchangers being damaged. I'll leave you to form your own impressions on the quality of the welding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJ Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 jeesh, that looks like I welded it ! #refund if I was you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type911 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, MarkJ said: jeesh, that looks like I welded it ! #refund if I was you. More like I did it. Are these SSI type for 3.2 with bigger bore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Oh no. Sorry to see that Chris. Look like neither M&M welded it. More like Stevie W! 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP72 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Shoddy - I hope I would have noticed mine looking that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 They think the welding is absolutely fine 😧 1 hour ago, Type911 said: More like I did it. Are these SSI type for 3.2 with bigger bore? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rock Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 There’s functional and there’s aesthetic...if it doesn’t leak, maybe it’s OK. For the money I’d be wanting something I could hang on the wall, like old school SSI’s.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Dr Rock said: There’s functional and there’s aesthetic...if it doesn’t leak, maybe it’s OK. For the money I’d be wanting something I could hang on the wall, like old school SSI’s.... My thoughts exactly. Eisenmann carries a Rolls Royce price - I was expecting RR quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I was just going to ask if these are considerably more expensive than SSI's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Price was somewhere around £2650 😧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Wow. Just had a look on their site. 4150 euros for the full system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Busybee said: Wow. Just had a look on their site. 4150 euros for the full system. It's the full system that I've bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Chris_911 said: It's the full system that I've bought. Is it the exchangers along that have the poor welding or backbox too? If the dents etc were damage caused in shipping, maybe the carrier would cover it? This is what I was looking at https://eisenmann-exhaust-systems.com/shop/exhaust-system/all/2003/porsche-911-g-model-1974-1989?number=P91132GK.00831S&c=157 *alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTompkins Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just showed the pics to my son who is a good welder, mig and tig...he thought it was a joke. you should reject it Chris, despite having waited so long for them. Did you pay on Credit Card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Busybee said: Is it the exchangers along that have the poor welding or backbox too? If the dents etc were damage caused in shipping, maybe the carrier would cover it? This is what I was looking at https://eisenmann-exhaust-systems.com/shop/exhaust-system/all/2003/porsche-911-g-model-1974-1989?number=P91132GK.00831S&c=157 The one you are looking at has catalytic converters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, GrahamTompkins said: Just showed the pics to my son who is a good welder, mig and tig...he thought it was a joke. you should reject it Chris, despite having waited so long for them. Did you pay on Credit Card? Graham that's really interesting. I'm no welder but think the welding is dire - I guess the best way forward is to get an 'expert' opinion on the welding. However the likelihood is that I will be in a 'we think it's OK' and batting it back and forth. I did pay on credit card but not sure what my options are. I'm massively disappointed with what has been delivered to me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 I don't understand why I have one heat exchanger that looks like this: And one that looks as though it has been beaten randomly with a hammer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I know it’s no consolation but are the bottoms of these ok? If so, it’s all you’ll see when fitted and the outer shroud is just a case. Totally not making excuses for shoddy workmanship especially at top dollar but you might not even notice when fitted up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustybum Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Chris_911 said: I don't understand why I have one heat exchanger that looks like this: And one that looks as though it has been beaten randomly with a hammer: Looks like someone has been trying to make that one fit! Or it was the trainee who made it! Hope you get it sorted Russ Edited April 15, 2019 by Rustybum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 The welding on the image they have used on their website looks just as scruffy if you zoom in. Including that weird circular patch on the heater exchanger outlet. Looks like the gas was low on some welds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Sadly you're not wrong Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Comerford Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Check with Andy Young and see if his are similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type911 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 They look like the sourced them from the Dansk recyling bin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP72 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) These are the photos Andy shared with me of the F system I bought off him - the F model on the right, the G model on the left where paired. I couldn’t accept what you’ve received, they look like returned items. Having said that, even the new G model ones Andy had fitted weren’t straight forward, what from I heard. Edited April 15, 2019 by SP72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy M Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Sorry but I'd be sending them back. I know there's been an Eisenmann back box for a Boxster on eBay with split seams for sale for a while - given the standard of welds I can see similar problems if you kept them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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