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Weather is cooling down and I’m getting withdrawal symptoms before winter even gets here. Thinking of keeping going by trying to winterise an ib. Wheels off and waxoyl under arches, floorpan, front and rear bumper cavities, doors? One of the dinitrol treatments offered at a specialist? Am I risking a rusty mess in time to come?

I know it’s a school of two thoughts. Wrap em up and keep them for summer or just get out and drive.

Am I better off looking for something cheap and fun for winter? Something 4wd. What’s the best winter fun hack? 

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I had the car insured and taxed through winter but very rarely drove it during winter.  Its right now rust free with pretty much perfect kidneys, sills etc and you will see it has a decent amount of waxoyl or similar sprayed in the right places.  So you are at least starting from a good place if you want to use it in winter.

You will freeze though as the heater is "3 seasons".  ;) 

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54 minutes ago, Busybee said:

Weather is cooling down and I’m getting withdrawal symptoms before winter even gets here. Thinking of keeping going by trying to winterise an ib. Wheels off and waxoyl under arches, floorpan, front and rear bumper cavities, doors? One of the dinitrol treatments offered at a specialist? Am I risking a rusty mess in time to come?

I know it’s a school of two thoughts. Wrap em up and keep them for summer or just get out and drive.

Am I better off looking for something cheap and fun for winter? Something 4wd. What’s the best winter fun hack? 

I’ve done both over the years and concluded long ago that there is no fun involved driving an IB in the winter. marginal heating and attrition from salt and grime aside, they don’t handle well in frost,Ice and snow and it’s just a question of time before you have occasion to regret it. I no longer think driving in winter is particularly fun but if you’ve gotta do it, do so in a comfortable 4x4 with all the bells and whistles. I’ve always had X5s since they came out , on my 5th one and agreed there are better SUVs out there but I like them and they do the job..

that having said I do take the IB on a bright dry winters morning for a 20 mile blast just to get the fix, and it always makes me glad I’ve got it.

Graham

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There are some great temporary coatings available nowadays, waxoil is d0gsh1t as it attracts dirt and a nightmare to clean off.

Get everything back to nice shiny paint and get a good quality Hydrophobic coating on - resists water, salt and dirt but without turning all black and orrible.

An aircooled car on a crisp cold dry day is muchos fun - obvs daily driving through sleet, rain and snow is less fun!

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I used to use mine all year round but the cills and underside get ruined by salt ingress in the exposed 70's/80's design that has loads of nooks and crannies for the salt and damp to accumulate. Several expensive body repairs later and I tend to just take it for lovely winter sun blats. I also bought a de-humidifier for the garage to dry out the wet car if its used in wintry conditions (ie an English summer :lol: )

Im thinking of using my Integrale (4wd!) as a winter runner but expect i'll be asking for more trouble than using the IB. Not sure temperamental Italians like our English winters, the wife certainly doesn't 😋 . its been wax-oiled but im tempted to take it to one of these rust-buster prevention places for a proper coating.

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Car should be fine with the arch protector shields fitted?

Good dollop of ACF50, Dynax or similar beforehand, should be good for a while.

Careful with Dynax and rubber though - the curing process is not kind to bushes, it’s fine once cured.

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Kind of amazing no one does a rubberised spray on peal off winter coating. Can’t be that hard with the polymer tech around these days. I have narrow body wheel arch liners that I’ve not fitted yet. But I’d need wide body. Rotted sills and jacking points scares the @@@@ out of me

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BB, Cardip UK do it, call them,

When they first started out, they developed special recipe paint on peel off paints for me for a F1 project, great guys to work with and they do a top quality product

I'm sure they'd help, should be able to buy in rattle cans too as they supplied me with rattle can clear paint for another secret squirrel project not long ago

They wanted to give me European distribution rights for their clear product but I bottled it, turned them down 🙄

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6 hours ago, World Citizen said:

BB, Cardip UK do it, call them,

When they first started out, they developed special recipe paint on peel off paints for me for a F1 project, great guys to work with and they do a top quality product

I'm sure they'd help, should be able to buy in rattle cans too as they supplied me with rattle can clear paint for another secret squirrel project not long ago

They wanted to give me European distribution rights for their clear product but I bottled it, turned them down 🙄

Website doesn’t exist???

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22 hours ago, Richard Bernau said:

I had the car insured and taxed through winter but very rarely drove it during winter.  Its right now rust free with pretty much perfect kidneys, sills etc and you will see it has a decent amount of waxoyl or similar sprayed in the right places.  So you are at least starting from a good place if you want to use it in winter.

You will freeze though as the heater is "3 seasons".  ;) 

Thanks RB. 3 season is optimistic I reckon. More like 1 season plus a couple of weeks each side. I’m not sure if the heating fans work at all to be honest. Heated seat pads 👍

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8 hours ago, World Citizen said:

BB, Cardip UK do it, call them,

When they first started out, they developed special recipe paint on peel off paints for me for a F1 project, great guys to work with and they do a top quality product

I'm sure they'd help, should be able to buy in rattle cans too as they supplied me with rattle can clear paint for another secret squirrel project not long ago

They wanted to give me European distribution rights for their clear product but I bottled it, turned them down 🙄

I think we would all be interested in a product like that :) be very handy for classic car ownership.

There is a Rustbuster place in Lincoln that offer a full winter protection package. I'd like to find one a bit further south! 

Rust and councils are my natural sworn enemies 😋

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5 hours ago, Busybee said:

Thanks RB. 3 season is optimistic I reckon. More like 1 season plus a couple of weeks each side. I’m not sure if the heating fans work at all to be honest. Heated seat pads 👍

What heating fans?  Removed them when they stopped working.  Its only the engine fan pushing thru like a 70s 911.  Dress warm and the heater keeps the screen clear, but that about it.  The size of the HEs is so small that you just don't get enough heat transfer to the air.  Inside the HEs I added some finned bits to try to increase the heat transfer but unfortunately, size matters.  Heated seats is the right idea.

On 9/5/2019 at 11:11 AM, MarkJ said:

Not sure temperamental Italians like our English winters, the wife certainly doesn't 😋 . its been wax-oiled 

Wax-oiling the wife.  Is that a thing?

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21 minutes ago, Richard Bernau said:

What heating fans?  Removed them when they stopped working.  Its only the engine fan pushing thru like a 70s 911.  Dress warm and the heater keeps the screen clear, but that about it.  The size of the HEs is so small that you just don't get enough heat transfer to the air.  Inside the HEs I added some finned bits to try to increase the heat transfer but unfortunately, size matters.  Heated seats is the right idea.

Wax-oiling the wife.  Is that a thing?

No fans at all? Thought there must be a couple of little fans somewhere under the dash. Those little footwell blowers I'd figured. Well that explains the virtually no heat function on any of the fan settings 😂. Heated seats, trousers, vest, gloves, bobble hat coming up!

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6 hours ago, SP72 said:

Dump the headers, for some SSIs - or see if TT can retro fit the larger h/ex’s he offers

 

Engine fan should be enough, I get more than enough heat without the blower heat , albeit rpm dependent and with SSI

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Maybe a hose has come off. Hardly any air flow through my vents. Hot or cold 

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