Chris_911 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Whilst I have my inlet manifolds removed for my fuel line work I have a good opportunity for 'whilst I'm in there'. The engine sound pad is in reasonable condition but is starting to break up at its edges. Now I could just buy another new pad but coincidentally I have just ordered some 3mm Silent Coat for my van daily. Is this a better alternative? It has a black finish so would not grate appearance wise. Anybody replaced their engine sound pad with more modern materials? Silent coat: https://www.silentcoat.co.uk/collections/silent-coat-black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I suppose one issue may be that inverted lightweight engine bay pads glue OK while inverted heavier pads may not stick as well once the bay starts heating up. I can see the case for heavier pads/dynamat inside the cabin rather than having a pad in the bay. Or staying lightweight with the pad while adding the dynamat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALEX P Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I used to have some aftermarket sound deadening in my engine bay but last time I dropped the engine I went back to the standard one & put the sound deadening on the inside. They're about £40 so not silly money, self adhesive and saves a lot of hassle trimming to fit. https://type911shop.co.uk/epages/de867ca1-377e-432e-84fd-bdccf2206766.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/de867ca1-377e-432e-84fd-bdccf2206766/Products/1438 Someone should pimp one up with leather handbag stitching cover like the Singer ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ALEX P said: Someone should pimp one up with leather handbag stitching cover like the Singer ones! Tuts have done a few non-Singers with diamond stitching. I’ll dig out a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 Thanks guys. Having trawled Pelican reading all I can find I now feel 'slightly' more informed. Might buy a new factory pad and use a small amount of silent coat in addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP72 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Rose Passion do the original bitumen style mat, circa £400 IIRC. I went with the sticky-backed lightweight mat a la Alex. wasn’t even stuck down but still fitted well enough to leave alone until better access was granted to clean the old glue off. Just about see it in this pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWT Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Chris_911 said: Might buy a new factory pad and use a small amount of silent coat in addition I used one of these replacements from Mat; https://type911shop.co.uk/epages/de867ca1-377e-432e-84fd-bdccf2206766.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/de867ca1-377e-432e-84fd-bdccf2206766/Products/1438 Reasonably light, works well and looks smart. Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rock Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, SilverWT said: I used one of these replacements from Mat; https://type911shop.co.uk/epages/de867ca1-377e-432e-84fd-bdccf2206766.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/de867ca1-377e-432e-84fd-bdccf2206766/Products/1438 Reasonably light, works well and looks smart. Mark Mine must have been the same - cost about £40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 I'm quite likely to buy the one that Matt sells and add some tiles of the Silent Coat I have bought for my van as well. The ones produced by AppBiz seem to be well liked by the Pelican crowd but very spendy to get one over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strosek34 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I fitted one of Matt’s as well, did the job with minimal hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just ordered one from Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Is it feasible to replace this item with engine and ancillaries in place? Mine is a little scabby around the edges. I assume it is glued in place? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWT Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Timmy said: Is it feasible to replace this item with engine and ancillaries in place? Yes, but it's fiddly. Once the old one is out and all the bits cleaned up you can wiggle the new one in. This should be dry, no glue on pad or firewall. Once in you can add some glue using a small brush taped to a stick. Don't need much glue as the tabs around the edge hold it in place well. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type911 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Think I will put one in the SC, I guess an SC is easier than a 3.2 with engine in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 It might be possible to do with the all of the upper bits fitted to the engine, but it's going to be a challenge. Have literally just pulled mine off and started doing the detail cleaning - i.e. getting the remaining glue and foam residue off. Think this could be a job spread over a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWT Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Chris_911 said: It might be possible to do with the all of the upper bits fitted to the engine, but it's going to be a challenge. I managed it on a 3.2, only the engine bay heater blower removed (due to previous heater backdate, not for this job). Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type911 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just had a look, the SC looks easy.....................ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 Just to round out this thread... Tiles of 3mm Silent Coat applied and then a new pad courtesy of Matthew at Type911. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Chris, looks very smart. Did you glue it in place or just rely on the tabs? Would you have done it without removing the engine bits on top? Thanks Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 Without glue you could probably get it in place with all of the gubbins on top of the engine. But it's too elastic to stay in place without glue - a stiffer item would self-support, this won't. I don't see how you would get all of the acoustic benefit with out glue. I used some acoustic foam glue in aerosol form. This stuff: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BW5N2VA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It was still a challenge to get it in place as the glue was quite 'grabby', so positioning was tricky. I think you might be able to do it with the inlet manifolds still in place, but not with everything else still in place. 12 minutes ago, Timmy said: Chris, looks very smart. Did you glue it in place or just rely on the tabs? Would you have done it without removing the engine bits on top? Thanks Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Comerford Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Has anyone considered this? http://thepadkeeper.com https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=48&t=1553241 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-964-993-technical-forum/1027598-pad-keeper.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_911 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ian Comerford said: Has anyone considered this? http://thepadkeeper.com https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=48&t=1553241 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-964-993-technical-forum/1027598-pad-keeper.html Saw the posts on it but didn't investigate further. Marketed as a quick fix if you don't want to dig deeper. Would be interested in knowing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin689 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) Love this thread, thanks. It will be useful when it comes to my engine bay sound deadening Edited June 21, 2020 by Justin689 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestershire Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Recommend high temp contact adhesive for anything automotive especially items like roof linings and the engine pad. This stuff is very good: https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1263/heat-resistant-adhesive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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