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1976 Targa... so many questions!


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Hi, my first post... happy to be part of the gang. Hopefully you will have me ;)

The car has been in a barn for a while but turns over, drives but doesn’t stop yet. It has matching chassis and engine numbers. It's a 2.7 Lux. It was Copper Brown Metallic and will be again.

The red is straight over the original paint and is ghastly.

I’m trying to find the original Spec so I can make a decision  on the rubber spoiler. I fear it may be original spec...

thoughts?

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Welcome. That will be a lovely car again. I believe that is original spec. Will be nicer without that's for sure. They weigh a lot as well.

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Welcome, as Phil say original, at least for the year.

If your car came with it originally it will also have had the rubber lip spoiler under the front valance. No lip spoiler, or the fitting bolt holes in the valance flange, would indicate not original spec to your car. But, both front and rear spoilers could have been fitted later.

If you don't like it, get and fit a spoiler-less undrilled engine lid and hang the spoiler and engine lid on the garage wall in case you want it later.

Mark

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Thanks Gents, no rubber lip spoiler on the  front. But the bright work goes round the front wheel arch where the rubber lip spoiler would go, so they would foul each other... but it has had some work at the front at some point whilst it was still brown.

I read that you could get the original spec from the Porsche owners club but they seem to have stopped that service. Is there any where else as the links you can find that say they can often end up in a web based cul-de-sac?

 

 

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Is that spoiler really original for the year?  I know that features often bled across MYs, presumably as Porsche used up parts and I'm no early IB expert, but the car has the old front quarter lights. Would that make it a 75MY car?  The combination of the quarter lights, the cookie cutters, the chrome sills, the spoiler and what appears to be a flag mirror on the drivers side look like an odd combination to me.  The COA should tell you the the original options.

7 minutes ago, Cookies said:

Thanks Gents, no rubber lip spoiler on the  front. But the bright work goes round the front wheel arch where the rubber lip spoiler would go, so they would foul each other... but it has had some work at the front at some point whilst it was still brown.

I read that you could get the original spec from the Porsche owners club but they seem to have stopped that service. Is there any where else as the links you can find that say they can often end up in a web based cul-de-sac?

 

 

The COA (cert of authenticity) comes from Porsche.  It's just that it used to be a freebie as part of the PCGB membership.  I think it costs about £40 or £60 if you buy it directly from Porsche. It will really help cut through a lot of guesswork.

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It was first registered in March 1976, it’s the Lux so it had some extras... 1 electric wing mirror, headlight wash and I think cruise control. It has an extra stalk on the right hand side of the steering wheel.

I am not keen on the spoiler and I think it will go on the Garage wall. Or eBay as they are £1300ish on 911 design. :)

 

There are so many bits that need sorting that seem to cost an arm and a leg. £36 for 16 screws for the targa top lugs was a fav.

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Hi and welcome, nice targa !

i don’t think that rubber spoiler was fitted to 2.7s, I’ve only ever seen them fitted to 3.0 Carreras and early SCs....I might be wrong....

it will look a lot better without it in my opinion 😊

Phil

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If the extra stalk on the right side of the column is a thin stalk near the dash, it's your cruise control.

Didn't know they were around in the '70s.

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Welcome.

Nice car, almost purchased it myself actually...it was very local to me in Beds. The spoiler is not original to the car. It has some nice original parts on it and will make a great Targa when completed so good luck with the project.

Best

FF

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Subjective but I really feel Targas look better without spoilers of any type.  Even if yours did come with that spoiler you could ally’s get a spare flat engine lid and use that instead, but keep the lid with spoiler in case you see

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1 hour ago, fat fuchs said:

Welcome.

Nice car, almost purchased it myself actually...it was very local to me in Beds. The spoiler is not original to the car. It has some nice original parts on it and will make a great Targa when completed so good luck with the project.

Best

FF

Thanks, interesting.
 

Yes, it was from Beds. It does have some great potential and a few concerns, but nothing that has me ashen white as yet.

The spoiler will go and it will be back as close as I can afford to original, but I do want to use it.

My plan is to go the June 2021 Sportive at Montchavin Les Cloches and run her up the hill... but as I have not got a date from the restorer this May be optimistic.

 

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18 hours ago, jehatwhitland said:

Is that spoiler really original for the year?  I know that features often bled across MYs, presumably as Porsche used up parts and I'm no early IB expert, but the car has the old front quarter lights. Would that make it a 75MY car?  The combination of the quarter lights, the cookie cutters, the chrome sills, the spoiler and what appears to be a flag mirror on the drivers side look like an odd combination to me.  The COA should tell you the the original options.

The COA (cert of authenticity) comes from Porsche.  It's just that it used to be a freebie as part of the PCGB membership.  I think it costs about £40 or £60 if you buy it directly from Porsche. It will really help cut through a lot of guesswork.

Hmmm. I cant seem to find out how to do this... Any ideas?

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I've not done it but I think you now have to take it to a Porsche Classic Centre and have them evaluate the car.  They will then tell you what needs doing (and try to sell you the same of course) and also give you full details of the build specification in the form of what they now call a Technical Certificate.  It all sounds very commercial to me and I don't like the feel of it, but like I say I haven't done it before so perhaps I'm being cynical.

https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessoriesandservices/classic/technicalcertificate/

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10 hours ago, Cookies said:

Thanks Longman. 
 

so is there anyway to get your original specification?

https://www.porsche.com/germany/accessoriesandservices/classic/

Look down the page to the Kontakt section - there is a telephone number and email address for certificates. I've used the German centre before to answer questions about my car and always found them very helpful. I would just drop them an email and ask them.

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Looks like I am out of date - PGB seem to have stopped even Porsche Technical Certificates in 2018.  However, they still appear referenced on the German and US websites - not sure if you could get one centrally.  So may still be worth writing to them in Germany.

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19 minutes ago, carreracat said:

I've not done it but I think you now have to take it to a Porsche Classic Centre and have them evaluate the car.  They will then tell you what needs doing (and try to sell you the same of course) and also give you full details of the build specification in the form of what they now call a Technical Certificate.  It all sounds very commercial to me and I don't like the feel of it, but like I say I haven't done it before so perhaps I'm being cynical.

https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessoriesandservices/classic/technicalcertificate/

This service in Germany costs 499 euros!  The old certificate was £60 through Porsche centres or free through PCGB.

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I saw this and was interested, my limiting factor is that it needs to have a lot of work done before it can drive to any Porsche centre for the assessment... brakes being main one. Lol

 

35 minutes ago, jehatwhitland said:

https://www.porsche.com/germany/accessoriesandservices/classic/

Look down the page to the Kontakt section - there is a telephone number and email address for certificates. I've used the German centre before to answer questions about my car and always found them very helpful. I would just drop them an email and ask them.

I have mailed them and will let you know how I get on.

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Initial quotes are back and the plan is forming as to who will do the body work... 

Has anyone sent their car abroad for the work, I have seen some specialists in Hungary, who do a lot of work on German and Austrian Porsche’s...?  Any thoughts on this?
 

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