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My 911? Just.....NO

Hopefully this will be something my daughter will have to worry about when she gets the car, hopefully I'll still be able to run an ICE 911 as long as I'm physically able to drive one.

 

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Its taken me 48 hours to think again how I feel about this and the conclusion for me is that the question is wrong   Rather than asking would you, I think the Q is will you need to, because the i

Not for me I'm afraid, no interest at all. However, that doesn't make me some form of luddite, I've worked in tech my whole career and am very happy to be as eco-friendly as I can in daily life. It ju

Totally, agree, what's the point of a 911 without its flat six, a Ducati or Harley without its V-twin, a Subaru without its flat four, or a BMW bike without its boxer?

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This is a bit of very clever design work 😎

FWD, RWD, AWD, whatever layout you want, reminds me of a Tamiya RC car, pop on a different bodyshell and have some fun

All the company needs to do now is to start manufacturing carbonfibre Mk1/Mk2 Escort, Porsche 911/356 BMW 2002, Alfa 2000 GTV, Datsun 240Z etc bodyshells

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-ev/rally-prep-announces-lightweight-ev-platform/43681

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I would rather stick forks in my eyes than convert my 911 to an EV. Its like taking the beating heart and soul out of the car :rant_yellow: End of.

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9 hours ago, World Citizen said:

This is a bit of very clever design work 😎

FWD, RWD, AWD, whatever layout you want, reminds me of a Tamiya RC car, pop on a different bodyshell and have some fun

All the company needs to do now is to start manufacturing carbonfibre Mk1/Mk2 Escort, Porsche 911/356 BMW 2002, Alfa 2000 GTV, Datsun 240Z etc bodyshells

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-ev/rally-prep-announces-lightweight-ev-platform/43681

Completely agree. This is clearly the way forward. You can have any style of car you want on a modern purpose built chassis. The electrification of existing classics is utterly ridiculous. Poor range, long charging times, loss of soul and character and preposterously expensive. You still can't go for a jaunt across Europe (or the US for that matter) though. I still can't understand why Hydrogen is not be pushed.

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28 minutes ago, MarkJ said:

I would rather stick forks in my eyes than convert my 911 to an EV. Its like taking the beating heart and soul out of the car :rant_yellow: End of.

Completely agree. Don't see the point in converting genuine classics. But..... in a few years, would you be tempted by a Cayman that can do this or better Mark? 

 

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I think at the moment the key thing for me is that they are so much heavier. They are generally really powerful but the novelty of doing a quick squirt to 60 wears off after a while. If the batteries and motors can be developed so they give equivalent (or better) power per kilogram as an Internal Combustion Engine (just for you Teaboy) then you've potentially got something that handles really well  - at that point the lack of engine noise is less of an issue to me. Currently though sticking a few hundred Kilos of weight into a car and making up for that with more power leaves me cold

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Wait for hydrogen cells powering the electric motors.  That will be lighter.

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40 minutes ago, PeterK said:

Wait for hydrogen cells powering the electric motors.  That will be lighter.

But as I said above, why isn't this being pushed over batteries?

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7 hours ago, sladey said:

I think at the moment the key thing for me is that they are so much heavier. They are generally really powerful but the novelty of doing a quick squirt to 60 wears off after a while. If the batteries and motors can be developed so they give equivalent (or better) power per kilogram as an Internal Combustion Engine (just for you Teaboy) then you've potentially got something that handles really well  - at that point the lack of engine noise is less of an issue to me. Currently though sticking a few hundred Kilos of weight into a car and making up for that with more power leaves me cold

Agree 100%

Been reliably informed a new still to be launched German SUV hybrid weight is worryingly close to 3500 kgs 😲

The manufacturer is concerned as in Germany you need a truck license to drive anything above 3500 kgs 😂

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22 hours ago, MarkJ said:

I would rather stick forks in my eyes than convert my 911 to an EV. Its like taking the beating heart and soul out of the car :rant_yellow: End of.

I’m completely with you on this Mark, it is the beating heart and character of the car.  However, there are classics where that is not the case, or is but to a lesser extent.  So there could be a case

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On 29/01/2021 at 16:38, sladey said:

I think at the moment the key thing for me is that they are so much heavier. They are generally really powerful but the novelty of doing a quick squirt to 60 wears off after a while. If the batteries and motors can be developed so they give equivalent (or better) power per kilogram as an Internal Combustion Engine (just for you Teaboy) then you've potentially got something that handles really well  - at that point the lack of engine noise is less of an issue to me. Currently though sticking a few hundred Kilos of weight into a car and making up for that with more power leaves me cold

With the 914, I’m at 1200kg and 50/50 weight distribution with 300HP and 150 - 180 mile range.   That’s lighter than a 3.2 with a passenger. 

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On 29/01/2021 at 20:15, Phill said:

But as I said above, why isn't this being pushed over batteries?

Image problem !? 🤔 

 

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On 30/01/2021 at 17:15, Jonny Hart said:

With the 914, I’m at 1200kg and 50/50 weight distribution with 300HP and 150 - 180 mile range.   That’s lighter than a 3.2 with a passenger. 

That sounds good Jonny

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On 30/01/2021 at 23:51, GaryH said:

Image problem !? 🤔 

 

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Interesting but I don’t think that’s it. We’re all driving round with tanks of seriously flammable stuff in our cars already (ask Doc Rock) and leccy cars make a fine bbq if they go wrong (ask Richard Hammond) 

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5 hours ago, Busybee said:

...and leccy cars make a fine bbq if they go wrong (ask Richard Hammond) 

Another reason not to buy one :lol:

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1 hour ago, Jonny Hart said:

Except that is a photo of a copper mine in Chile. 

Ah the perils of using "interweb" - thanks for the correction!

On the subject of copper then its consumption by the automotive sector would probably quadruple if we all switched to EVs.

 

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Not just EV’s.  Batteries are everywhere.  Copper is everywhere.  Cobalt is everywhere.
 

Earth’s resources are finite, whatever you dig up.    There is only so much oil in the ground as with everything else. 
 

At least batteries can store and release energy over a long period of time, unlike oil which is just burnt.   Can be recycled too.

https://americanmanganeseinc.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiAjeSABhAPEiwAqfxURaFFEChfLblQD9_dgBqVP_DuZlC8ExbQ1IkqHmMlGD7VqteUQt9seRoCbFcQAvD_BwE

 

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