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So I am thinking of backdating my narrow G model and like the idea of fibreglass panels for weight saving (and price). What are peoples real life experience with them and any advice? Are some suppliers better than others for example. I am worried about a poor fit which then means you end up spending as much on labour getting it to look right as you have saved by not buying steel parts in the first place. 

I don't have a garage, so wouldn't be doing the work myself (don't have the skill or time either). Panels I am thinking of are bonnet (short catch / long hood) plus front and rear bumpers.

Let me know if you have tried fibreglass and how you got on.

Thanks

Jonny

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I had some unknown quantity f/g early wings.  After a couple of days taking them on and off I ordered a pair of early Dansk steel wings that went on with minimum fuss.  The bumpers from the same f/g set where much more pleasant to work with with and I kept those.  At the time I got a pair of Dansk wings off ECP for about £1300 for the pair, was only about 4 years ago.  Porsche was about double that cost and after talking to a couple of restoration specialists about Dansk V Porsche I opted to for Dansk based on their opinion.

There are probably better f/g wings out there but I'd go steel on wings and f/g for the bumpers.  

I had my IB bonnet extended by Fennlane and it was spot on and only about £300, it utilises the same front latch panel and you just need to extend the release lever a touch so you can get your hand up.  Unfortunately Fennlane no longer exist and I'm not sure anyone else offers that same service.

I wouldn't prioritise any gains of lightness above fitment.  Other things to consider is how the lights fit and how you support your front oil cooler, filler flap, etc.

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I've got fibreglass bonnet, ducktail and bumpers on mine.  The bonnet is the only panel that has been problematic, as it was gradually arching upwards in the middle until I got fed up with it and fitted a steel frame to the underside (as covered in my build thread, 'Modern Love' in the SC section).

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I have a F/G bonnet which took a couple of hours of careful trimming but now fits just as well as a steel version but saves LOADS of weight, bonnets are unbelievably heavy! Front and rear standard looking F/G bumper blades should fit easy enough as the ends are hidden in the bellows so a couple of mm here or there will be no issue. Whole RSR style bumpers however take hours to fit..... Ask me how I know!

Many here would argue that as soon as you remove the aluminium blades there is no point in the crush tube bumper supports, plain alloy tubes will do, another weight saving.

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1 hour ago, Chris T said:

I have a F/G bonnet which took a couple of hours of careful trimming but now fits just as well as a steel version but saves LOADS of weight, bonnets are unbelievably heavy! Front and rear standard looking F/G bumper blades should fit easy enough as the ends are hidden in the bellows so a couple of mm here or there will be no issue. Whole RSR style bumpers however take hours to fit..... Ask me how I know!

Many here would argue that as soon as you remove the aluminium blades there is no point in the crush tube bumper supports, plain alloy tubes will do, another weight saving.

Hi Chris, can I ask where you got your panels from given you are happy with them? My biggest concern is poor fitment as there seem to be a big difference between suppliers.

10 hours ago, GimmeShelter said:

I've got fibreglass bonnet, ducktail and bumpers on mine.  The bonnet is the only panel that has been problematic, as it was gradually arching upwards in the middle until I got fed up with it and fitted a steel frame to the underside (as covered in my build thread, 'Modern Love' in the SC section).

same question really, where did you get your panels from given you are happy with them? 

 

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Best fitting panels are from EB motorsport in my experience. I've tried several cheaper alternatives over the years and its not worth the faff or shonky fits. The EB stuff is spot on. (bonnet, ducktail boot lid, RSR bumpers front and rear).

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Got my bonnet from ebay, can't find the ad any more. Front and rear RSR bumpers were from R to RSR and while the front fitted OK, the rear was miles out, about 5 cm too wide, but there is a big difference in turbo/RSR flares, mine has turbo arches, so may account for the difference to be fair. Took bloody ages to get it to fit!! 

 

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4 hours ago, MarkJ said:

Best fitting panels are from EB motorsport in my experience. I've tried several cheaper alternatives over the years and its not worth the faff or shonky fits. The EB stuff is spot on. (bonnet, ducktail boot lid, RSR bumpers front and rear).

Thanks Mark, EB do seem to have a great rep. Pricey, but if it saves hours of labour its worth it. I have seen clubautosport as a supplier which are about half the price, look the same but obviously if the fit isn't as good its a false economy. Pro9 also seem quite prominent.

I guess I should bite the bullet and go EB, will just need to save a bit more.

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13 minutes ago, 70sThrowback said:

I have seen clubautosport as a supplier which are about half the price, look the same but obviously if the fit isn't as good its a false economy. Pro9 also seem quite prominent.

Don’t waste your time or money with either. :twocents:

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"Got my bonnet from ebay, can't find the ad any more" Pro9 that's it! 'pro-9porsche06' on ebay. As I say, bonnet fitted pretty good and bumper blades you can't go wrong with IMHO

 

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Just be aware that the guys are commenting on their experience of of f/g IB panels on an IB car, you're backdating an IB so you'll have to make things fit even more so.  One of the main reasons I changed to steel was that f/g wings I had were horrible around the indicator/horn grill area.

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On 15/01/2021 at 09:33, 70sThrowback said:

same question really, where did you get your panels from given you are happy with them? 

Hi, and same answer - EB Motorsport.  Working together with Riviera (the paint & bodyshop), we looked at several and decided EB's products were the best fit and finish.

But we still decided to use steel wings (Dansk) because of the better fit, etc, but even those had to be modified, 'cos the nearside front wings are manufactured with a slight twist in them.

Incidentally, it's not that difficult to move the bonnet latch panel forward, and the result is much more satisfying.

Beware that your standards tend to increase as the project goes along!

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Carbon fibre bonnet I've heard about from a mate with a 964, 4kg! If you don't mind going spendy on a bonnet that is. 

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1 hour ago, Busybee said:

Carbon fibre bonnet I've heard about from a mate with a 964, 4kg! 

Must be very very thin, my CF bonnet is just under 6KG.

Mark

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there are definitely huge weight savings in going to FG - I've gone FG doors, wings, bumpers, bonnet, ducktail. the pay off being that mine is a track car, the panel gaps aren't great and it's all roughly the same silver but once you are in it and giving it full beans non of that matters to me!

Mark (SilverWT) is the master of FG creations and you can see that the time he puts in really pays off, but if you were paying a garage to do that the costs would surely rocket.

 

all depends how deep your pockets are / how light you want to make your IB 😁

 

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Thanks guys, this is a dip my toe in the water transform. So I don't mind if the panel gaps aren't perfect at first. I just want to get them on drive around and see if I like it. Once I make my mind up I may go full steel wings etc... I can always sell some of the fibreglass stuff later on, but will definitely keep the bumpers because I like the look anyway. 

I am calling EB today for a chat, so will no doubt buy from them following this great advice.

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