Beaky Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/yokohama/a008p/245/45/R16/W/94/f?tyre=39704216 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Comerford Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 A bit expensive compared to SO2s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWT Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Ian Comerford said: A bit expensive compared to SO2s But they come in 245/45/R16, unlike SO2s these days. Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Toyo still do that size. Just has a pair fitted for £115 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaky Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 19 hours ago, Nige said: Toyo still do that size. Just has a pair fitted for £115 each. How are you finding the new Toyo TR1's (its a newer tread pattern that the originals). My original's worked well until they reached around 5/6 years old when they quickly seem to go off. Bridgestone and Conti seem to have the same level of grip at that age as when new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Well they're a massive improvement on Toyos already fitted as they were well past their best so difficult to compare. For the price I don't think you can fault them, I've installed Toyos for most of it's life with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaky Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 I need new rears and have narrowed my choice down to these four: Toyo TR1 245/45/ R16 Yokohama A008P 245/45 R16 Continental PremiumContact 6 225/50 R16 Michelin Pilot Sport 4 225/50 R16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTompkins Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Beaky said: I need new rears and have narrowed my choice down to these four: Toyo TR1 245/45/ R16 Yokohama A008P 245/45 R16 Continental PremiumContact 6 225/50 R16 Michelin Pilot Sport 4 225/50 R16 My observation is the MPS4s are brilliant tyres BUT if the temp is less than 4C they go really hard on you and it’s quite noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieB911 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 hours ago, GrahamTompkins said: My observation is the MPS4s are brilliant tyres BUT if the temp is less than 4C they go really hard on you and it’s quite noticeable. Interesting as I’ve got them on all my cars and find them very capable, even at low temps. Fantastic in the summer & really grip like rocking horse .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydyrs Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Apologise for being controversial but why would anyone put 2 rear tyres of a different brand from front? Fit new tyres on rear when fronts are 4+ years old especially on basis that a 911 will require 2 sets rears for fronts during this cycle. Tyres are the only contact point with the road and it’s a performance car so new rubber will always give best grip/performance and a set is normally sub £500 fitted. Over 4/5 years, when rubber is going hard, it’s a low cost to change, ensure safety for owner or car and ensure best piece of mind enjoyment and security when driving hard or in all types of weathers. I just don’t get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaky Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 A very valid question. I put a new complete set of Conti's on in October 2017, the front as still very good, but the rear one of which was repaired late last year have around 3mm of tread left and need replacing. I would go for the same Conti's but 245/45 are no longer available, hence looking for suitable alternatives. I may just bite the bullet and change all 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewaysfun Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Beaky, since your post above, I didn't even know that Pilot Sport PS4 were available in 225/50/R16!! Thanks for enlightening me. I'm going to be popping those on mine when I get round to changing my inevitably square tyres. 16x8/9 but i'm not too concerned about running 225 on the back 👌 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaky Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Most tyre to wheel fitment charts say the minimum size you should put on a 9 is 235, the maximum 265. A silly question, I wonder if a 225 tyre would invalidate ones insurance Edited February 19, 2021 by Beaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJH911 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 For fear of going off topic, PS4s are also sold in the happiest place on earth (otherwise known as Costco) for £414.40 a set...which seems okay to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strosek34 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 A few people on here have 225’s on 9” rims. £414.4 for a set of PS4’s is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTompkins Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 13 hours ago, JamieB911 said: Interesting as I’ve got them on all my cars and find them very capable, even at low temps. Fantastic in the summer & really grip like rocking horse .... Agree, very capable tyres and brilliant grip in summer particularly when pushed hard but the trade off is that the winter performance is significantly worse when pushed..when I say worse, the rubber is much harder at low temperatures to the extent that I notice it..sensibly I restrict my hooliganism to when I can wear a t-shirt 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaky Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) Don't shoot the messenger ! I have written to both Continental and Michelin tyre companies both have said at present they have no plans to make 245/45 R16 tyres 😬 They also didn't recommend stretching 225 over a 9" tyre, nor did several Indies for that matter. One indie did say that the original Yokohama A008P was a very good tyre and his preference over the TR1. I forgot to add, they did recommend going to 8" and the Michelin PS4 being a brilliant tyre! Edited February 22, 2021 by Beaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, Beaky said: I have written to both Continental and Michelin tyre companies both have said at present they have no plans to make 245/45 R16 tyres 😬 That doesn't surprise me, I don't think there are any other cars that use that size. Whenever I've have enquired for pricing at tyre centres they always know it's a Porsche just on the size I quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewaysfun Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Are 17" wheels on a 911 really that bad? 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP0ZZZ Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 22/02/2021 at 23:51, Beaky said: One indie did say that the original Yokohama A008P was a very good tyre and his preference over the TR1. Do you know if the current A008P has an updated rubber compound compared to the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaky Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, WP0ZZZ said: Do you know if the current A008P has an updated rubber compound compared to the original? I would assume so, maybe worth asking Yokohama directly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP0ZZZ Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Beaky said: I would assume so, maybe worth asking Yokohama directly In that case I would be quite surprised if it performed better than a modern tyre like the Toyo TR1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaky Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, WP0ZZZ said: In that case I would be quite surprised if it performed better than a modern tyre like the Toyo TR1. I have send an email to Yokohama to clarify what compound they are using, I do know it has passed Porsche testing and is N rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellyfishfields Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I remember having A008 tyres on a Toyota GT, long time ago. I was impressed with them, but they didn't last long. This could also be an option, Yokohama track day tyres. I had a look the prices of these a couple of weeks back, but I see stock now seems to be an issue. Either way, they are not cheap. https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/advan-a052 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP0ZZZ Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 7 hours ago, jellyfishfields said: I remember having A008 tyres on a Toyota GT, long time ago. I was impressed with them, but they didn't last long. This could also be an option, Yokohama track day tyres. I had a look the prices of these a couple of weeks back, but I see stock now seems to be an issue. Either way, they are not cheap. https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/advan-a052 Everyone I know who has tried the A052 on track has been blown away by their performance. However, I would be hesitant to use them on a car that's driven mainly on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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