ChrisW

Thanks Simon, Yes all well thanks, as I hope everything is for you. Very interesting on the number still in the UK ... I tried looking on How many Left but they don't differentiate the models down to this level. The old N-GT taught me to drive on track ... I did Km20,000 in it ... thanks for letting me know about the ECU and I hope that I am contacted at some stage so that I can put the two of you in touch Regarding the 3.2CS ... I also think it looks wonderful ! Chris

Thanks ... great to see the pic !

I had recently bought an unused 2011 987 Boxster Spyder .... Mike fancied a different kind of experience and wanted to sell the car to somebody that he could keep in touch with (and the car!) ... so we did a swop with a balance in his favour Both very special cars ... but the 3.2 Club Sport is something else ...

Thanks all, I have always believed that there were 350 of these cars, of which 53 came to the UK. As with the '76 2.7 Carreras that are rarely shown (but exist) ... I am struggling to make the number of Club Sports add up .... Peter Morgan shows ROW 3.2's in '87 -- 81 cars, '88 -- 148 cars, and '89 -- 90 cars, plus for the USA '87 -- 300 cars, '88 -- 82 cars and '89 -- 7 cars .... I also read that there were only around 27 cars in the USA which would make more sense of the 350 total ... Of course the USA cars were less powerful and heavier and maybe like the American 964RS they were really not the same car as the ROW 964RS cars, but can anybody explain this ? I noticed recently at the 2022 Gooding -- Pebble Beach sale, a European 3.2 Clubsport in an interesting green colour (one of one) sold for over $400k with around 30,000 miles under its belt -- does this underpin the notion that the USA cars really are not comparable to the ROW cars ?

This is a car that I have been interested in for years. I've had the '75 2.7 Carrera, still have a '73 2.4S and for a time owned a 3.2 Jubilee ... plus a variety of 964 / 993 / 996 / 997 RS / GT3 / and Cayman R / GT4 etc, not all at the same time ! I looked at the Red car ... but wasn't sure ... and am delighted now to have found a beautiful, well used but brilliantly stored and maintained White car ... what else could it possibly have been ? It had been in "current" ownership for over 20 years ... the car about which Mike Wilds waxed lyrical ... and now mine. I've only got a picture from when I picked it up because as with all my cars, it has gone in for a full service and a few other bits and bobs ... such as re-fitting the original steering wheel ... which I like.

Very good and fairly priced ??

Thanks for the feedback, ... without advertising are there any preferred specialists who come to mind in the Yorkshire area ? Chris

Pics !

Thanks, this was the type of feedback I was looking for. It is getting worse even though it isn't driven in the rain ... and I am careful how I wash it ... I will post some pics ....

I have a very nice 3.2 Jubilee Coupe which has had no bodywork. It was in it's day a concourse car so had a full re-spray and has a consistent 350 microns paint thickness. The bodywork is very solid and it's just flown through it's mot ... but ! Around the door shuts I'm just starting to see tiny blebs of corrosion which are still beneath the paint (I've known the car for five years !) and this is stopping form wanting to drive the car if there is any chance of rain. I love the car. But how can I preserve it without taking the chance on having to slice out the originality of the car ? I could just ignore it until structural work is demanded but ? What options ? Thanks, Chris

So an Anniversary to celebrate the 25th Anniversary, not a Celebration to celebrate 250,000 cars. What should a really nice 80,000 mile Coupe be insured for theses days ?

I was very interested to read this thread .... 1. IMO increasing values must be good because it then makes sense to look after these cars 2. The 3.2 engine is possibly the sweet spot in Porsche motors --- look how many retro-fixes for the early cars come from the 3.2 3. Originality is really the key to future values --- hot rod if you wish, but you may as well buy an old 996 GT3 instead 4. I don't care how good your 915 box is, the G50 was an improvement --- another engineering sweet spot ? This is the only car that I would buy to fill the history gap between my '75 2.7 Carrera and my 2002 American LeMans GT3RS racer .... it took Porsche 14 years to regain their Mojo ... Not to discount the 964 and the 993, but my garage isn't big enough In fact, I have sold both this year ...

I hope the engine doesn't rumble It's great to follow these posts !!

Has this just become a speculators numbers game ? I own a 997 GT2 2009 1 of maybe 5 clubsports with PSM3 --- from total 61 cars in 2008 and 2009, so clearly worth over £150k ... Not. This will be a lovely car, but reality is being disengaged ... I can really understand when a lovely lovely car increases in value by 10% in a year. Maybe somebody got lucky. But this, feels like a bubble.

Marked up as deposit taken ... at what price ?

But it is a Targa --- what difference does this make to the value ?

£44,500 is price being asked ... wrong colour ... but whether or not it is cheap depends upon it's originality, history, and what now needs to be spent on it ...

They will fail with any fuel, but the Ethanol containing fuels are supposed to be particularly aggressive to old rubber based materials ...

I'm sorry to post this in the most general section and I'm sorry if you already know ... But it's worth checking all original fuel lines. The new E95 and E90 fuels can easily finish off struggling lines, at best rendering your car useless, at worst, firing it in more ways than the one we would wish for .. Mine simply wouldn't start, but it took me a little while to find the pool of petrol ...

So do I, that's quite clever

How interestingly complex ! How can one tell the RS rear arches v. the later "to 964" arches ? The few '76 cars should therefore not be RS arches, but early Thyssen galzanised (reputedly useless) --- and some talk of homologation to create early impact competition cars ? ---all LHD to mainly Germany and Austria, but what were the other differences ? Or are the '76 cars an urban homologation myth ?

Does that make the first 200 more special ? I guess it does !

To quote Mr H "And it's at this point that we all begin to be affected by the alpha males at the top of the tree. Suddenly those bargain Aston DBSes double in value and wily traders want to tell you that a 1974 2.7 911 is actually a 2.7 RS with different bumpers and therefore worth £100K." A 1974 2.7 911 is worth £25k .. and it's a long long time since 2.7 Carreras were anywhere near that price £100k ? --- not yet RHD's are of premium interest in Singapore, HK, Australia ... and the UK ...

--------------------------------- I completely agree, and maybe I misunderstood. I am sure that the 2.7 MFI cars are special. And when a good specialist restoration (if you can find the required bits) is now north of £30k, it is reassuring for a mag to come along proposing a value that will permit these cars to be justifiably rejuvenated. Otherwise most Porsche enthusiasts will never have seen one. There are over 100 RHD C16 2.7RS, plus LHD cars, before you add the converted RHD 2.7 MFI Impact Bumper cars (11 ?) and the myriad other look-a-likes. Good 2.7 Carreras --- will now number how many more than 10 ? Each to their own, but for their age, these are astonishingly good cars. The Super Cars of their day at a time when Porsche had a massive lead in the market. Chris

The cost of a refurbishment would be more than the car is currently up at ... it MUST be worth an inspection before anybody can form any view on value. Numbers ? etc