chodosh Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Car went through an MOT the other week and passed okay. Had a dig around underneath whilst up on the ramp and the suspension looks a little tired. Paint on the shocks peeling and anti roll bar looking rusty etc. I have a Bentley manual and am reasonably capable, but I wondered if there's a good order of attacking the job. I don't want to go over the top, just a light spruce up... Car is a supersport, so uses 930 running gear. What are the major differences? Is it more cost effective to simply replace the shocks or restore? I don't want too hard a ride so do people advise against poly bushes? The front looks a more complicated proposition as I believe removing shocks is complicated. Is this true? Cheers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarts Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Hi Chodosh, I'm just about to do the same thing: http://www.impactbumpers.com/forum/index.php?/topic/30166-winter-refresh/?hl=%2Bwinter+%2Bref Though I am going to poly bush as I'll be doing some hill climbing and sprints in mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chodosh Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Removing the torsion bars looks a bit of a faff. Plus I just put new stone guards on so really don't fancy removing them to get them out.... Aiming for a light freshen, maybe bearings, bushes and shocks. Am used to working on my old corvette which is prehistoric so this is a little new! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 All easy peasy if you can hold a spanner and have a decent tool kit. I went polybush all round and noticed little difference in ride quality, the main thing that stiffened it up was fitting Bilstein all round instead of Boge. Remove, replate and powder coat and then polybush for ease and cost effectiveness. Torsion bars are easier to remove than a coil spring strut in my opinion. Only bit you need to get right is reinstalling the spring plate on the right spline. But with some common sense marking and measuring it's easy enough. It's just nuts and bolts. Upgrade to Turbo rod ends (though I guess the supersport already has this) new balljoints and bushes. There are no bearings in the setup. You might get away without fully removing the rear torsion bars, depends how easy the spring plates want to let go. I did mine about 7 years ago now. http://www.impactbumpers.com/forum/index.php?/topic/11778-niges-mini-resto-on-32-carrera/page-5?hl=%20mini%20%20resto Also search through Chris_911 posts as he didn't much better write ups and photos than myself of the same process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rock Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Are you doing the front or the rear? Front is easier. I wouldn't use polybush- go Fenn Lane for bushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chodosh Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 I didn't have a real preference where to start. Whichever end is easier. Am told that I can use a friends ramp so that might make things easier, just need to allow for moving the car around without the wheels on whilst things get done! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Not much difference between the two, splitting the front strut from the lower ball joint can be faff. Do that while it's all still fitted to the car and not on a work bench. Having an access to a press will help massively but you can manage without and use a regular bench vice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rock Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Why do you need to move the car around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chodosh Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 If I use the guy's ramp, he'll need access to it for (paying) customers and I can envisage that this might stretch across more than a sat morning's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rock Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 It'll take a lot longer than a morning- more like a month to do both the front and rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I managed perfectly adequately with a pair of axle stands in my garage, started with the rear and then moved to the front. Most of the time involved will be waiting for parts and taking things to be plated or powder coated. Use local outfits for this and it will cost beer money. Don't tell them it's for a Porsche else beer money will turn into champagne money. Also factor in a geo/cornerweight session afterwards to get the full benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris T Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 As Nige said earlier, it is just nuts and bolts, although usually pretty rusted solid ones! Geometry check is 100% required as removing rear spring plates mucks up the rear, no matter how closely you measure them beforehand. I used an iPhone app to get the angle of the spring plate before I took it to bits to ensure getting it close. By eye/spirt level/string methods all covered here somewhere, you should get it close enough to drive it to a specialist. Choose wisely however, I (accidentally) chose a local garage who then charged PER ADJUSTMENT! They ALL need a tweak, £ ouch £ Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rock Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Once you get stuck in, you're in to the finish: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichD1 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Can the rear trailing arms and hence the bushes replaced without removing the engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rock Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Can the rear trailing arms and hence the bushes replaced without removing the engine?Yes: I did it. Bit tight with the trailing arm bolt but it is doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 What's access like with a partial drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichD1 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Did you use any special or modified spanners to do the job? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chodosh Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Okay, so next point of clarification would a supersport run with standard 3.2 shocks, or would it actually run turbo, I get confused and I read different things do any of you guys have a original widebody? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chodosh Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 So by the time I started to read into all of this I kind of gave up... we just had a little baby girl a few months back so time was at a premium. Booked my car into Unit 11 and had them overhaul from front to back. Ended up going to town. Whilst giving the car a good service. Bilstein Turbo dampers, Turbo track rod ends, poly bushes all round, new bearings, ball joints, Refurbed spring plates - every piece of suspension, arms, anti roll bars, undertray and tin ware removed, blasted, painted and renewed, all new bolts, washers etc etc. Super happy with the job, car looks great and rides an absolute dream. I always thought the car handled well, but its setup lovely now. Can't wait to use it! Steering is pin point sharp and turns in lovely. I'll have to get some pics once the car is out to show you the ride height. I think they got it just about spot on, she always felt high at the front...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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