topcarrera Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Ever started a job and then though sh*t WTF have I started ? Started to repair big heat induced blister on rear o/s rear wheel arch following tyre rubbing on inside of wheel arch at foot of Paddock Hill bend at Brands trackday at end of last year. Did all the prep and thought I'd try to "spot in" a la Chips Away but alas colour match very close but, (as usual) not quite good enough - thought about mixing some more paint to get perfect, then thought nah have a go and blow in the whole panel and see if I can loose the mismatch/blend out ........... Somebody please save me!!!! Scene as of a few minutes ago ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCooledExcellence Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Flipping eck Andy, it was only a tiny patch Might as well carry on and do the rest of the car now mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Might as well carry on and do the rest of the car now mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 keep the faith Andy - Im sure you can do it .....but it could quickly turn into something a little bigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 WTF..as Tim said is was a teeny weeny patch, get the wallet out Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Your a supportive bunch aren't you?! Bet Andy wishes he had never asked for your help!! Mind you, I'm not much use either, good luck Andy. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCooledExcellence Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 It might have been better if he asked for advice before he powered up his compressor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Mate, all that will thinners/clay or worst case scenario gentle compound off, take it off gently and get a touch up specialist to paint it, or bring it to Silverstone and I will clean it off for you. I did say it was trickier than it looked, but good on you for having a go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Twinzig Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 "A man's gotta know his limitations" - Dirty Harry 1971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Young Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Ever started a job and then though sh*t WTF have I started ? Oh let me think - the day I took off my sill covers, last Saturday when I decided to take off the dust shields.... need I go on? I think it's all part of the IB ownership thing. When its back together and sorted you will laugh over a beer after thrashing it all the way to the red line. Don't give up - behind the banter we all want it sorted. I felt a complete tonk after I cleaned my wheels with the wrong stuff - may take money to fix them. Love IBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcarrera Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) "A man's gotta know his limitations" - Dirty Harry 1971 Yeah a small garage! Fortunately flatting, compounding and polishing to compensate for a cr*p gun finish wont stand out against a factory paintjob that has a near mirror like quality in the first place ........ When its back together and sorted you will laugh over a beer I've been crying over three beers since about 8 'clock! Edited March 12, 2007 by topcarrera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverjamesthomas Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Top marks for having a crack at it Andy If it's any comfort, I've a friend who is in the cosmetic repair business and is quite good at it. He sometimes ends up with the wrong colour on the car and has to start over again. At least you've given it a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevvy Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I would have just used this if I had a white car: Dont get too upset Andy - its only paint and can easily be sorted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcarrera Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 Surveyed the scene again this morning - Doesn't look toooooo bad. Think odds are fairly even at the moment between me pulling this stunt off or having to go for a bodyshop correction. Just need to leave the cellulose to harden off a bit before launching into it any more. He who dares wins (Rodney) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Think odds are fairly even at the moment between me pulling this stunt off or having to go for a bodyshop correction. Take it off and let a pro do it, I love your enthusiasm but it's gonna look like crap mate and cost lots more to sort when they have to do the whole quarter. I would paint a Golf but not my lovely 911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcarrera Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 Take it off and let a pro do it, I love your enthusiasm but it's gonna look like crap mate and cost lots more to sort when they have to do the whole quarter. I would paint a Golf but not my lovely 911 Why on earth is it gonna look like crap? Its all down to how easily I can loose/blend the new paint in with the old - very difficult to spot in an area on an exposed flank - guess thats why body shops will always do a larger area. The Chips Away type people and a local repair were quoted at anywhere between £80 and £100 - nobody would guarantee colour match or mix paint to match as part of a small repair job. If I took it to a body shop they would probably paint a reasonable part of the rear panel anyway and charge accordingly. Understand your concern but dont think what I am doing will make any difference IF I have to give up and go to a bodyshop. Regarding looking like crap I've seen loads of very expensive 911s (older pre IB cars) with absolutely attrocious paintwork i.e. that I would be ashamed of. If you have the time to flat and polish cellulose and assuming that the finish on the rest of the car is good to start with (low ripple/high clarity reflection) then it really is not difficult (famous last words). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 it really is not difficult (famous last words). LOL, I luv you TC, you are my hero Go TC Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCooledExcellence Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Top Cat! The most effectual Top Cat! Who's intellectual close friends get to call him T.C. Providing it's with dignity. Top Cat! The indisputable leader of the gang. He's the boss, he's a pip, he's the championship. He's the most tip top, Top Cat. Yes he's a chief, he's a king, But above everything, He's the most tip top, Top Cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
declang Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I would paint a Golf ..... Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Ouch. What, painting Golfs is easy with a rattle can, I have done entire panels on Golfs and they have looked OK, all flat metal. Not like a 911 flare. Painting and (and then polishing) around corners is another matter entirely, which is what TC will find out when he starts polishing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcarrera Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 Not like a 911 flare. Painting and (and then polishing) around corners is another matter entirely, which is what TC will find out when he starts polishing back. I think you are exaggerating a bit - Edges need care to ensure that you are not taking too much off of course when polishing back but a 911 rear arch is OK IMHO. The main issue is that the flare itself catches the light and is very unforgiving wrt a really cr*p job either in terms of finish or colour match, hence my decision to try and use the pattern of the arch and the way the light falls on it to hide the repair but over a larger area of the wing ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
declang Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 What, painting Golfs is easy with a rattle can, I have done entire panels on Golfs and they have looked OK, all flat metal. Just your turn of phrase Still have that mk1 I bought last year. Guess I'm a bit sensitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndglynn Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 The main issue is that the flare itself catches the light and is very unforgiving wrt a really cr*p job I think the problem is going to be 100% how you lose it and not the coverage over the scar and how that polishes up. Someone else airbrushing it would be cheaper all around IMO, and I would paint the entire quarter, but it's your car brother. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcarrera Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Update - Things were going quite well last night - my confidence has shifted such that odds are probably below say 33% me needing to find a bodyshop (my normal paintwork man has stopped working) to sort things out. Think I can blend/loose the new paint round the arch sufficiently well, just need to choose the right position to blend/polish back to - I really struggled to spot the transition point after a while and my wife (hardly an acid test I know) couldnt see it. My main concern is that the car is in the garage and I havent seen any part of the repair with colour coat on in Bright daylight - not sure if this will help matters or not......... Have been working under bright strip light and tungsten light - for certain colours and metallics this can be worse than bright daylight - not sure about solid white - we'll see. Pride comes before a fall though! I thought I could still detect some very very minor witness/evidence of colour difference around the position of the scar itself (repair underneath) so thought I would just locally put some more paint on this area - straightforward ......... At 10 pm I stood staring at the square of wet paint thinking how bright and creamy it looks wet and amazed at how much darker it is dry ..... 5 minutes later ugh Oh!!!!! I currently have four different batches of GP white - yes you've guessed .............. 24 hour set back but hoping to have something half reasonable complete for weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 An IB bravery award should be minted and presented to TC for having a go at this repair ...hope it all works out Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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