PorscheApostle Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 The SC has gone so to plug the hole I got a fiddled Cayman which is something I'm really beginning to enjoy. It's been fiddled and all the upgrades have been done on it . There's a few more to do but a really engaging car with the right amount of hp to not get you into ant serious trouble. It feel strange getting into so etching relatively modern everyday as apposed to so.ething more classic but as I'm getting older I'm starting to see the appeal. 🤦 Think the price range for these and their character better represent the appeal of the IBS I first got in to. When the early air-cooled cars were more affordable and the community less beard and vape and more skinned knuckles and Saturdays spent spannering. (Strictly my view) So the car has uprated suspension miltek exhaust lightweight flywheel and a GT3 steering wheel which is a nice touch. Think this might be a long term ownership as I've never liked the 911 variants of similar years. Who else has a Cayman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstarkey Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Yes I have a Gen 1 2006 good little car for the money and with a few mods an engaging driver, still have the 911. My thread below shows my upgrades, but the suspension and exhaust etc on your seems to be the recognised ones. Worth looking at the Cayman OC forum, MarkJ on here has a Gen 2 Cayman R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorscheApostle Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 Awesome. Thanks for the pointers. It's great to see the various communities for these models. Like most of the RND done at their first inception it's seems the owners have a fiddle. Try things establish what works and what doesn't. The dynamics of this car are very different to others I have owned but I find it a good daily albeit a bit of struggle getting in And out of but like my 68 I've developed a routine. I'll be getting into my IB when its finally done. Just never seems to be enough time for everything. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I’ve got a 2008 gen 1 ragtop version. Totally standard mine. Good fun little car especially with the roof down on a sunny day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bernau Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Welcome to 987 world. You can check out my thread on here detailing my mods etc or have a sniff around boxa.net where I also detail a running report. Great cars that are well judged as standard but come alive with a few choice tweaks. Gen1s need really good oil and a low temp stat for piece of mind, and maintenance of rads and suspension arms but those seem to be the only common issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaky Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 On 6/9/2019 at 5:31 PM, Busybee said: I’ve got a 2008 gen 1 ragtop version. Totally standard mine. Good fun little car especially with the roof down on a sunny day I got one of these, a 05 3.2S version, Standard apart from a Carnewal exhaust, it's been great across Europe can easily carry mine and the missus luggage, glorious with the roof down on a sunny day. I think these 987's compliment the IB perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Beaky said: I got one of these, a 05 3.2S version, Standard apart from a Carnewal exhaust, it's been great across Europe can easily carry mine and the missus luggage, glorious with the roof down on a sunny day. I think these 987's compliment the IB perfectly Yup. I really like them. Lots of luggage space. Got pipped to a 2011 black edition with all the toys recently. Gutted. They are really good value the 987's and a lot of fun. Even tracked mine a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Ohps. Think I just bought that black edition Boxster after all! Deposit paid anyways. Gonna see it in the next couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorscheApostle Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Seems like a new movement. Up the 987s! Perfect compliment to the in as a daily I think. With working Aircon 💪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, PorscheApostle said: Seems like a new movement. Up the 987s! Perfect compliment to the in as a daily I think. With working Aircon 💪 Yup. Very good value. Wonder if anyone has experience with chipping one. This claims 320hp but I’ve heard 360 is achievable with a tweak or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJ Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 nice buy, if I hadn't gone spendy for the CR (Damn youtube vids suckering me in ) I would have gone for a black edition. They have great spec and are a little more tuned. I expect you would have to spend some bigger bucks to get 360 out of it from 320 though! But 335 must be more realistic as that's what the CR is. (CR has bigger exhausts, aggressive ECU mapping but also superlight wheels, alloy doors, lsd etc.). Its a bit like saying a 964 can be made a 964RS with a few tweaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bernau Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Try it for a bit before worrying about the hp. Make it reliable and then think about the mods. For fast road use, brakes ought to be the first priority IMHO. Light 18 inch wheels are IMHO a good upgrade plus reversible and adds a touch of personalisation. I may downsize the rear tyres to 255 (vs 265) next time around to change balance a fraction and also shorten the gearing a fraction. Probably stay 235 front though 245s are tempting. Some track 987s run a square set up... I would be highly sceptical of claims of big hp gains mapping an NA Porsche engine. They are hardly undertuned to start with. An observation, the CR vs S is more like an options pack compared to 964RS vs 964. If in doubt start writing a list of changes for each - the RS is a longer and less achievable list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJ Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 not sure Gt3 aluminium doors are on any options list and the price for all the extras would be exorbitant, but get your drift. Clubsport and normal G series maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 11 hours ago, MarkJ said: nice buy, if I hadn't gone spendy for the CR (Damn youtube vids suckering me in ) I would have gone for a black edition. They have great spec and are a little more tuned. I expect you would have to spend some bigger bucks to get 360 out of it from 320 though! But 335 must be more realistic as that's what the CR is. (CR has bigger exhausts, aggressive ECU mapping but also superlight wheels, alloy doors, lsd etc.). Its a bit like saying a 964 can be made a 964RS with a few tweaks Thanks. Drove up to see it today and did the deal. Few marks on the body being sorted out, wheels being refurbished for me and I got a deal on a 3 year insurance type rac warranty and a detail. Drove well. Has the Spyder wheels so I’m guessing they’re light weight. Pretty well specced too. PSE, PASM, PDLS, chrono, heated seats, cruise, pcm 3, sports seats with crests. It’s done 60k but hey ho, so has my current Boxster. Nearly half the price of a CR so there has to be a few spendy differences. Power, carnewal do a 200 cell cat header that they say gives 10hp. http://www.carnewal.com/products/987/p87017/987-2-Exchange-Sport-Cats New map, who knows. Reckon 340 to 360 is achievable but I’ll drive around for a bit. It’s a step up from the 245 in my 2.7. Thanks Richard. I’ll see how the brakes go but DS2500’s on my shopping list for her. By the way, can someone explain chrono to me? Not a scooby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911jon Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Another vote for the Cayman R/IB 3.2 Carrera combination. My R is a delightful driving machine and reflects everything a modern Porsche should be. Unlike the 991/992/718, none of which appeal to me (I'm old-school). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911jon Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Busybee, congrats on the Black Edition version; great value for money. Not really played with the Chrono on my manual yet. Sport mode does sharpen the throttle a bit and lift the rev limit, but gives more options on PDK cars (Sport plus sharpens auto changes I gather). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnonut Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 A 987/IB pairing must be one of the most popular around these parts surely! 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJ Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) Natural successor to our IB's...so makes perfect sense @busybee, I've been contemplating a trip to Belgium to see Gert at Carnewal for the last 2 years! Firstly just for the GT exhaust that a lot of owners rave about but also for the sport cat 200cell headers. I think they give the Cayman a sound it deserves rather than the neutered euro emission catalytic whisper they can suffer. Only problem if you get it fitted over there is he needs the car for 2-3 days to get the headers off as well. Over here P-specialists quote ridiculous costs to swap out headers. Not sure if the Black edition is similar, but us CR boys are blessed with a superb induction roar inside the cockpit when on the loud pedal so a fruity exhaust probably only benefits with the windows open or if listening to your car on tickover. Edited November 13, 2019 by MarkJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bernau Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just do the GT exhaust, its an hour and a bit while you wait and good VFM. Go to Brugges after for dinner and a cheeky Belgian beer before chunnel home. Sports cats are a PITA in my experience - regular and random CELs meaning you have to keep clearing codes and nervousness at MOT time. My Mini with sports cat needs to be boiling hot to pass emissions. You can smell petrol from the tailpipe like a 1970s 911, so its clearly not doing what an OEM cat does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, MarkJ said: Natural successor to our IB's...so makes perfect sense I'd 100% agree with that, I'd prefer a Cayman long before a lardy 99 whatever I drove SVP's lightweight demonstrator with LSD and minus 150kgs, was a lot of fun and very lively Definitely something I'd change to from my 964 C2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bernau Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 If they were the same price, it would be a tough call between optimised 964C2 and optimised 987. The C2 has the character in spades while the 987 is objectively a better drive. IMHO We know from past experience that all these cars are awesome on the right road and just how well matched they are for cross country pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnonut Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, Richard Bernau said: Just do the GT exhaust, its an hour and a bit while you wait and good VFM. Go to Brugges after for dinner and a cheeky Belgian beer before chunnel home. Have spoken to Gert and I am just finding a day in the week when I can take a trip over there (eurotunnel has a £25 day return offer on at the moment) 1.5hrs and £400 to do there and then. He has confirmed he has a 60kkm 55mm CR modded system on the shelf with my name on it. If he doesn’t have anything suitable he can mod your existing system in 3hrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Miller Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I bought one early this year to use as my daily. Spent a weekend getting it dirty in Donegal recently, great cars and great value in Porsche terms.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 23 hours ago, 911jon said: Busybee, congrats on the Black Edition version; great value for money. Not really played with the Chrono on my manual yet. Sport mode does sharpen the throttle a bit and lift the rev limit, but gives more options on PDK cars (Sport plus sharpens auto changes I gather). Cheers Jon. Deal fell through on that car unfortunately. Dealer wouldn't rectify some basic things I spotted on the test drive including worn discs, paint gouges (from high heels I'd say) etc and it had a fault on the dash for hill start assist I think which they couldn't clear so I got my deposit back and walked away from that one. Shame as it was a lovely car. Still have my trusty 2.7 Boxster. Just wish it had a bit more omph sometimes. Like a few on here. I think the boxster/cayman are superb cars. Balanced so well and on my little 2.7, you can spin it up pretty damn quick. Maybe utilise 80% of the car rather than the 50% you'd get from something with monster power. One of these and an IB (or 2) or just great. I love it. But a gt3 would also be very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJ Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 jeez, what sort of shoddy dealer was selling the Black edition that couldn't (or wouldn't) rectify those faults for a sale? @wingonut, sounds like you had the same conversation I had with Gert a while back now. I was more than happy to go and get the GT exhaust fitted but I've kept delaying while I wondered whether to go for the sport cats or even kept the car. ps...you guys seen the GT4 RS Cayman that is coming out? oooft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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