Gio Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Hi all, So I was vacuuming the car yesterday morning and discovered the rear mat was soaking wet. After removing the mat, which must of weighed around 1 kg! I noticed water on the floor pan. I am not 100% sure where it came in from. We have not driven the car in wet weather for a while, however the car has been on the drive (in the same place) for over the last 6 days, while we had a fair bit of rain.. It looks as though the water has come from the console seat belt areas or from behind the seat. I have read through the forums and understand sometimes this can be caused by sunroof channels being blocked. Are there any other channels I should look for? Any ideas? anyone experienced the same? Not sure whether something like this would be covered under our warranty.. Thanks G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rock Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Parked on the flat? Nose up or nose down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Hi Dr Rock, Parked on the flat. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70sThrowback Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I would start with the rear windscreen seals, then maybe the rear quarters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Sunroof drains could be, but that often gives you a cold shower when you drive away. Often difficult to pin point as it could be any of the window seals or door seals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, 70sThrowback said: I would start with the rear windscreen seals, then maybe the rear quarters I do notice that water always seems to sit on both end of the rear windscreen seals, is that a sign? G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 The other thing I read, which I maybe clutching at straws was that the dealer did some work on the jacking points. I think I read somewhere that this is close to the water escape channels, which could have been closed off... G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rock Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Gio said: I do notice that water always seems to sit on both end of the rear windscreen seals, is that a sign? Always does that. I’m forever mopping up around window corners, even though they are all sealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I'd be straight back to the dealer Gio. You very recently bought the car didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Busybee said: I'd be straight back to the dealer Gio. You very recently bought the car didn't you? Yep, back in August.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) I'd think sunroof drains but wouldn't that stain/mark your headliner as a tell tale? That car of yours really needs to be under cover Gio. Too nice a car to sit outside Edited November 12, 2018 by Busybee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Busybee said: I'd think sunroof drains but wouldn't that stain/mark your headliner as a tell tale? That car of yours really needs to be under cover Gio. Too nice a car to sit outside Headliner is perfect, so not sure about sunroof. Yes, going into storage soon, ideally after getting this fixed.. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybee Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 There's a little step of around 5mm in the floor pan under the drivers seat so you can concentrate on the rear window/rear quarter light seals if the water was only in the back footwell IMHO. If its deffo not the sunroof. I'd also check under your rear seats to make sure that's not wet too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 As said by others... my money is on the rear screen seal! When I turned up to buy mine 9/10 years ago and the rear foot wells were flooded after the guy had got the car out of storage and left it in the rain! ... helped me get a few extra hundred off the price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 47 minutes ago, Busybee said: There's a little step of around 5mm in the floor pan under the drivers seat so you can concentrate on the rear window/rear quarter light seals if the water was only in the back footwell IMHO. If its deffo not the sunroof. I'd also check under your rear seats to make sure that's not wet too. So under the drivers seat it is totally dry, so potentially rear screen is where the issue is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Best place to start I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Remove the rear seat cushions and get your hand under sound proofing below - the rear seat "buckets" fill with water if the rear screen leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anil Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 As already stated by Nathan, definitely check under the rear seat pads for standing water. You may need to remove the carpeting to ensure that the hessian soundproofing underneath is also fully dry. On my car, I had water leak issues related to the rear plastic sunroof drain hoses. These drain from the rear of the sunroof cartridge to the rear drain points either side of the engine bay (just under the top of the engine lid). These hoses had shrunk to such an extent that they were no longer connected to the rear drain points so rainwater water was directed straight onto the rear shelf, which drained down the rear panel into the rear seat wells and footwells. The new drain hoses I ordered were nearly two inches longer than the old ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gander Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 All the foregoing worth checking out, and as Anil says, the sunroof drain holes need looking at. At least make sure that they are clear by running a slim rod or wire up through them. If corroded or breached, I would look for stains on the headlining. Remembering my commercial garage days in a former life, water leaks are quite difficult to pin-point.....needs perseverance and some detective work! good luck, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Hart Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 11 hours ago, R2D2 said: Remove the rear seat cushions and get your hand under sound proofing below - the rear seat "buckets" fill with water if the rear screen leaks. ^ This, but.... Water from the rear window can go under the rubber soundproofing, so the rear seat bases can still feel dry under the cushion. Peel back the carpet at the front of the rear seat and get under the rubber sheet. Under that there is wooly stuff that is usually sodden. Big horrible job to remove and dry out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Jonny - i said that! pay attention dear boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 Thanks for the replies all, I have made contact with the dealer, given we only have had the car for 4 months, I will let them figure this one out.. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sopor Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 The door membranes are another culprit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Hart Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 10 hours ago, R2D2 said: Jonny - i said that! pay attention dear boy. Sure, you had it spot on. Just reinforcing that you have to go in deep. Under the seat, the carpet and the rubber. Dry carpet under the seat bases don’t mean jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 13 hours ago, Jonny Hart said: Sure, you had it spot on. Just reinforcing that you have to go in deep. Under the seat, the carpet and the rubber. Dry carpet under the seat bases don’t mean jack. Only joking buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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