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Doing a Targa this time. Pretty bad state body work wise but nothing new really.

Bumper and wings being removed

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Bumper mounts missing on one side and rotted out on the other so made new panels and added new mounts

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And the other side...

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Inner wing repairs...

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Side repeater harness holes removed...

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Front wing repair...rotten bit removed and new bit made up/welded in...

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More to follow, sills next.

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Quick update, haven't really driven the target much over the last year. I did give the fan and housing a quick tidy up along with adding the achtung air box cover with a bmc 

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Torsion bar area rotted out including heater tube so had to cut out and repair 3 layers of metal that sit behind what can be seen from the outside.

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Heater tube repaired using flexible stainless exhaust pipe which still needed modification to follow the contours of the bodyshell

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Kidney bowl, jacking point and outer sill now in place 200+ plug welds later...

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Then moved on to the oil tank aperture which had rotted out on the top half due to mud collecting on top of the tank against the body. Had to fabricate this section but came out ok...

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Moving on to the passenger side sill, kidney and jacking point next.

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Thanks Steve,

Working on the passenger side inner rear wing just now which has suffered from mud collecting on the engine lid release tube. This car was being driven with a valid VOSA/MOT last year prior to me owning it which is quite scary given the amount of corroded steel i've had to cut out and replace.

Cheers

Andrew

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Yes great work Mr Fat.

I find it quite interesting reading this forum that whilst there are many people who will tackle complex mechanical/engine jobs, but recoil in horror when any bodywork or metalwork is involved. I'm sure you will agree, there's no mystique really, provided you have the space and time .

Ive done a fair bit myself in the past including a complete rebuild of an MGBGT.

Since the early days MIG welding has come on leaps and bounds and the kit you can get these days is very good and very cheap. Even TIG kit is cheap is now and widely available.

One of the key things is having decent repair panels to work with which is where a lot of people seem to cheapskate on and consequently spend hours trying to get to fit, whereas, decent ones are a pleasure to work with.

Patience is the other key thing needed. I was never great on that when I was younger, nor was I great in the filler skim, fortunately I had a buddy who was ace.

It's also amazingly satisfying to do ,and you can save an absolute fortune doing it yourself, and doing your own car you go the extra mile to do it properly.

Ive seen some appalling so called pro body shop jobs.

Great work on the 911

Graham

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Hi, brilliant work.

Just wondered, is that the right kidney for targa?

When I looked at this, most places suggested the type of kidney that you have used, but, when I pointed out that the car was a targa, most places recommended the later style, that have the extension over the jack point.

I know that there is a massive difference in price between the 2 styles.

Just curious.

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Really great work here, especially the fabrication work. Keep it up - the work and the updates. It's always good to see what they look like naked, and so satisfying as they start to come back together.

Kevin

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Lots of good work - impressive. Just out of curiosity did you make the panel on the inner wing just below the Targa hoop (the one with two swaged drain channels). I tried to get these for my Targa last year and they were nla from Porsche and nobody else seemed to make them. I had to fabricate which was a real pain as they only used to cost around £18 a side from Porsche.

As previous people have said - once you know bodywork and with a decent MIG very little is daunting. always makes me laugh when people worry about rust and I read a recent "expert" in and article on SC's saying that kidney bowl work could lead to a 10 - 15 K bill. Even with OE panels and new wings all round by my reckoning you get nowhere near that. I guess that was using gold and lawyers hourly rates! Much rather have rust than engine/transmisson problems. Should be a great car when complete and clearly you are an expert welder.

Malcolm

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Hi, brilliant work.

Just wondered, is that the right kidney for targa?

When I looked at this, most places suggested the type of kidney that you have used, but, when I pointed out that the car was a targa, most places recommended the later style, that have the extension over the jack point.

I know that there is a massive difference in price between the 2 styles.

Just curious.

SC Targa's came from the factory with the standard kidney bowl but the L shaped version would certainly fit. I did consider fitting them but having seen later Targas that have them as standard, the cars still flex when jacked etc. so not sure they offer a great deal more in terms of rigidity.

Cheers

Andrew

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Lots of good work - impressive. Just out of curiosity did you make the panel on the inner wing just below the Targa hoop (the one with two swaged drain channels). I tried to get these for my Targa last year and they were nla from Porsche and nobody else seemed to make them. I had to fabricate which was a real pain as they only used to cost around £18 a side from Porsche.

As previous people have said - once you know bodywork and with a decent MIG very little is daunting. always makes me laugh when people worry about rust and I read a recent "expert" in and article on SC's saying that kidney bowl work could lead to a 10 - 15 K bill. Even with OE panels and new wings all round by my reckoning you get nowhere near that. I guess that was using gold and lawyers hourly rates! Much rather have rust than engine/transmisson problems. Should be a great car when complete and clearly you are an expert welder.

Malcolm

Thanks Malcolm,

I did in fact get the Targa support panels from a main dealer at £18 for one side and £16 the other so they seem to be available again. As for being an expert welder...I wish. My first attempts a couple of years ago were terrible but it's just a case of practice and learning/taking time to set up the machine. It's something that I find quite relaxing for some reason lol.

Cheers

Andrew

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Latest update...

Passenger side inner rear wing was in a really bad state. A local garage welding repair (the red plate in the images) was hiding a gaping hole and the rest of the wing was little better;

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Started to remove/replace the old wing a section at a time to retain the correct shape and get some strength back into the wing. I doubt I could have fabricated the entire thing in one hit anyway.

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Removed the previous repair panel and started to prep the area for the next panel

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Hopefully have this inner wing completed tomorrow and the onto the last repairs to the shell in the form of the kidney and sill on the same side

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Awesome work as usual, FF! Another SC saved! Yay!!

:dancer:

P.S. (My Steffi goes in for renovation soon, so I'll put that bumper I bought from you to good use at last)

Cheers Gina,

I don't imagine Steffi needs too much work though? Looked great last time I saw her at down at Beaulieu.

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Not much progress this weekend but managed to keep things moving along. Last section of the inner rear wing made and welded in plus removal of the targa hoop support bracket. Had to patch one area and repair a couple of flange sections in readiness for the new bracket.

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Original bracket a little worse for wear...

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Repaired and almost ready for new panel which test fitted reasonably well. Just need to dress the top flange to get a snug fit.

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